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From: Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
14 Feb 2018   [#51] In reply to [#50]
And seems very robust (don't crash even made some crazzy functions)
I love the red traffic lights for indicate if something is wrong! :)

In any case the iges exporting works like a charm!

Render in free SimLab Composer Lite (maxi 1920 *1080)


From: amur (STEFAN)
14 Feb 2018   [#52] In reply to [#51]
Yes, very robust and powerful what it offers.

Artists from China, Vietnam and Russia make really beautiful relief works with JDPaint and ArtForm.

Here on the chinese "Youtube" you can find also videos about ArtForm. Simply put
ArtForm or JDPaint in the search bar.

http://youku.com/

Maybe you find also more cool things with ArtForm while exploring it.

Regards
Stefan
From: Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
14 Feb 2018   [#53] In reply to [#52]
Does JD Paint has also a free version ?
From: mkdm
14 Feb 2018   [#54] In reply to [#53]
@You : "...Does JD Paint has also a free version ?..."

C'mon Pilou! :) Let's spend two cents for a software one day !!

LOL :) :)

I'm kidding of course :) :)
From: amur (STEFAN)
14 Feb 2018   [#55]
No, and i think since ArtForm is it's successor you can no longer buy JDPaint from their site.

But ArtForm is almost the same as JDPaint.

Regards
Stefan
From: amur (STEFAN)
14 Feb 2018   [#56]
And then there is also JDSolid, but i think this is also not free.

Would be interesting to see JDSolid in action...

https://translate.google.de/translate?sl=zh-CN&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fbbs.jingdiaosoft.com%2Fforum.php%3Fmod%3Dviewthread%26tid%3D5310%26extra%3Dpage%253D1&edit-text=

Regards
Stefan
From: Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
14 Feb 2018   [#57]
Thx for the precisions and informations! :)
From: Franz
14 Feb 2018   [#58] In reply to [#51]
Wow Pilou, great!

Imagine after drawing anything perfect with MOI, and after merging sufaces with ArtForm.
Will be excellent smooth.

Franz
From: Franz
26 Feb 2018   [#59]
Friends of Nurbs!

Different possibilities to draw a basically simple shape with different curves did not let me go.
I also tried the procedure with SubD. Unfortunately, however, I always came up with an uncontrollable result.
Finally, however, I found an additional quick and well controllable possibility, which delivered a clear result.

Have a nice day,
Franz









My attempts with SubD:


Attachments:
Form_Solution.3dm
Form_trySubD.3dm

Image Attachments:
Form_Solution.jpg  Form_trySubD.jpg 


From: mkdm
26 Feb 2018   [#60] In reply to [#59]
Hi Franz.

@You : "...I also tried the procedure with SubD. Unfortunately, however, I always came up with an uncontrollable result...."

Hmm....this sounds a bit strange...
The good thing about SubD is that you can always leverage on supporting edges placed near of far the main edge loops to control the sharpness of the curvature.

But this is much easier if you do SubD things using a "true" SubD modeler. Moi + Max's SubDiv plugin is great but has a lot of limitation because Moi is Nurbs, SubDiv not :)

Of course it's not the same thing like dealing with true Class-A surface tools but...


Ciao!
From: Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
26 Feb 2018   [#61]
Why not try my first little tricks ?
Seems you can control all that you want! :)
And it's pure Nurbs!
http://moi3d.com/forum/index.php?webtag=MOI&msg=8847.1

PS That works also on SUbD result! ;)


From: amur (STEFAN)
1 Mar 2018   [#62] In reply to [#59]
Hi Franz,

you have more control with your model if you can add more edge loops.
Max's split command, for his subd script, does this.



Regards
Stefan

Image Attachments:
Bildschirmfoto 2018-03-01 um 07.46.36.png 


From: Franz
1 Mar 2018   [#63] In reply to [#62]
Thank you, stefan.
I may just need to understand what is really important when using SubD. I will try again....

Best regards
Franz
From: mkdm
1 Mar 2018   [#64] In reply to [#63]
Hello Franz!

@You : "...I may just need to understand what is really important when using SubD...."

Simple....two things :

1) Create only quad polygons and a very few triangles. No polygons that has more than 4 edges if you really want good results.
Ok, if you know that some particular area of the object will not be framed by the camera then you can do what you for with that area,
but if something has to be viewed by the camera and/or close to it you must have quads if you want good results when subdiv.

2) Create edge loops only where you need it.

But these two points are not simple. You need years of experience :)

Ciao!

Marco (mkdm)
From: Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
1 Mar 2018   [#65]
If that can help :)

As a form like this can't be SuDivided directly (Top face more than 5 edges)

Use SSPlit for trim
Use SBridge for "Blend Faces" only 2 by 2
Use _SUbD for SubDivide



Copy / Move faces
Bridge them



Extrude to Point or Nsided (kill the caps before) can be used for simple form :)

From: Franz
1 Mar 2018   [#66] In reply to [#65]
Thank You all!

Valuable tips. I tried a little bit and got closer to the goal.




I have another question. With SSplit it doesn't work with create and move position with one point.
The position of the split edge can only be adjusted with the slider.



How do you do it, Pilou?





Regards from
Franz

Image Attachments:
Form_SubD3.jpg  Ssplit.jpg  Ssplit_Pilou.jpg 


From: Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
1 Mar 2018   [#67] In reply to [#66]
<< How do you do it, Pilou?
I have not your Box Dialog for this sort of "trim" section segment wanted! :)

I have just a ShortCut "P" for the plugin _SSplit of Max Smirnov
http://moi3d.com/forum/index.php?webtag=MOI&msg=6674.254

So on a rectangular box (as shown on the video)

Function call a Face(s) or a segment...so

I click on a segment (so pre-selection) then Press "P"

For a vertical "trim" select an horizontal segment and you can move your vertical "section"!
Select a segment etc...

Of course if you want an horizontal "trim" select a vertical segment and move your horizontal "section" ! :)

Of course after one apply section you can just select a segment and Richt Click (recall last function) or Press "P" as yo want!

You must "bridged" faces for have this subdivided volume! If you make extrude you will have separated subdivided volumes!

PS If you select a Face I have your Box Dialog for input quadrangular faces on the selected face(s)!

I don't know if "trim section" is the good words ... "subdivided section" ? ...
From: Franz
1 Mar 2018   [#68] In reply to [#67]
Hi Pilou!

I had an old version from sSplit, now I updated.

Thanks for the link, Franz
From: Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
1 Mar 2018   [#69] In reply to [#68]
These plugins (SSplit, SBridge, SSCale, SubD ) is a true gem! :)

Bravo to MAX !

Just if "snap" during the move of the segment section will existing that will be gorgeous! But not vital for organic volumes! :)
From: Franz
2 Mar 2018   [#70] In reply to [#69]
Hi Pilou!

I tried to insert the older version sSplit. v. 0.6.2015.03.26 with a renaming to sSplit_old next to the new version.
But only the newer version works, maybe something would have to be changed in the files sSplit_old. The old version would have the additional effect that you could work with equal values for a cube (10,90 or 30,70) to get a symmetry.
(Because of missing snaps).
We can't thank Max enough, I agree.
This forum is full of extraordinary people.

Franz

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