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From: Metin Seven (METINSEVEN)
13 Dec 2017   [#33]
Metin reporting for duty, Sir!

New MoI installed on MacOS High Sierra. First impressions are fine, no issues encountered yet. No crashes or freezes.
From: Michael Gibson
13 Dec 2017   [#34] In reply to [#33]
Hi Metin, thanks for testing it - sounds good so far!

- Michael
From: bemfarmer
13 Dec 2017   [#35]
The command "Print3D.js" is not included in the new beta(?)

Please consider adding "Nudge.js" to the "stock" commands(?)

- Brian

General Windows 7 observation, nothing to do with MoIBeta: When windows explorer is "docked" to half screen view,
and when preview is active, trying to highlight, copy or paste should not be done in the preview area, IMHO.
From: scarab (SPUNAR)
13 Dec 2017   [#36] In reply to [#26]
Thanks Michael,
my mistake. You are right. Now F10 function is working for me.

Many thanks, by the way this is Super suport and very nice community.

- scarab
From: Michael Gibson
13 Dec 2017   [#37] In reply to [#35]
Hi Brian,

re:
> The command "Print3D.js" is not included in the new beta(?)

Yeah I removed it since it didn't do anything. At one point in the past it was going to be for integrating with a separate program called Print3D which does not exist anymore.

- Michael
From: bemfarmer
13 Dec 2017   [#38] In reply to [#37]
:-)
From: Metin Seven (METINSEVEN)
14 Dec 2017   [#39] In reply to [#35]
Adding Nudge to the commands that ship with MoI would be great indeed. I couldn't live without it.
From: mkdm
14 Dec 2017   [#40] In reply to [#39]
Hi Metin.


What is "Nudge" ?

I admit my ignorance about that...
From: shane (SHANE_W)
14 Dec 2017   [#41] In reply to [#18]
Hi Michael, I am no longer getting a crash we editing the shortcut keys but my changes are not being saved. I can change them and they will work until I close and re-start then the changes are lost. Manually editing the ini. won't work as my changes don't seem to "stick" there either.

Thanks,
From: r2d3
14 Dec 2017   [#42] In reply to [#41]
Hi Shane,

this is because the backward compatibility to the Moi3 for Mac under wine - even the "winewindows" doesnt know about the "command" key and therefor moi translates them to Alt keys automaticly.
For me this backward compatibility is not necessary because i dont use v3 any more.
From: Marbleman
14 Dec 2017   [#43]
Hi Metin,

I agree Nudge is a necessity.....

James Elliott
From: Michael Gibson
14 Dec 2017   [#44] In reply to [#41]
Hi shane yes there's a problem like Ralf describes with Cmd key shortcuts getting lost if you open V3, that's on my list to work on for the next release.

- Michael
From: Michael Gibson
14 Dec 2017   [#45]
re: Nudge, I'm not sure I understand the problem there, do you guys mean it isn't working at all for you?

- Michael
From: mkdm
14 Dec 2017   [#46] In reply to [#45]
I'm sorry Michael but....What is "Nudge" ?

Thanks.
From: Michael Gibson
14 Dec 2017   [#47] In reply to [#46]
Hi Marco, Nudge means "to move by a small amount". It's a command that you can set up so your arrow keys will move objects by a small distance instead of using the mouse. More details here: http://kyticka.webzdarma.cz/3d/moi/#Nudge

- Michael
From: mkdm
14 Dec 2017   [#48] In reply to [#47]
Ah.....OK...now I remember!!

Thanks for reminding me that command :)

Ciao.
From: r2d3
15 Dec 2017   [#49] In reply to [#44]
Why not having to separate ini files for V3 and V4 on the Mac?
From: Michael Gibson
15 Dec 2017   [#50] In reply to [#49]
Hi Ralf, probably the fix will be to have separate sections inside the ini file, entirely separate ini files shouldn't be necessary.

- Michael
From: Metin Seven (METINSEVEN)
17 Dec 2017   [#51]
Hi Michael,

Nudge works fine, but in my humble opinion it's such an essential command that it'd be convenient not having to install it separately.

By the way, a very insignificant observation: if you enter numeric pad "." as a key in the shortcuts, MoI recognizes it as "Numpad," (comma, not period), at least on Mac OS. It does work as numpad period though, so it's just cosmetic.

Regards,

Metin

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From: Michael Gibson
17 Dec 2017   [#52] In reply to [#51]
Hi Metin, including Nudge by default could have some complications, I'd need to update it in the documentation and also someone following the directions they found for setting up Nudge might follow the instructions to copy it over and then wonder if they should overwrite it. I also don't quite like having too many hidden commands by default.

At some point I'd like to solve these problems in a more comprehensive way by having some kind of script browser that would let you specify which scripts you wanted to install from some central repository and keep them installed between versions so you wouldn't need to copy things around manually. But I'm not sure when that will happen. Maybe I can do it in a few stages though and have the "keep installed" part working before doing the full browser implementation.

re: numpad comma - that's not happening for me over here, it might be a bug in the Qt keyboard mapping which could be difficult to fix.

What happens if you actually type that numpad key in a text editor, do you get a comma or a period?

- Michael

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