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From: maui (EASYW)
11 May 2016   [#41] In reply to [#40]
Hi Pilou, thank you for your reply...
you must make a "double copy" with "edges" of the volume for dimension it!
I'm sorry for my dummy request, but I'm new to DSM and I don't know how to get a copy with edges of the object and/or dimensions...
I'm able to dimension an object but what I see in the 3d pdf are only models bodies, not curves...

thanks again for your help
M
EDIT
@Pilou I can copy edges of the object and those are on 3D pdf
,
but I cannot find a way to copy or project to sketch dimensions to obtain curves of dimensions...
It seems that in the DSM file the dimensions have to be converted to curves before been exported to pdf
here a picture from DSM forum:


thanks again for support

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From: Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
11 May 2016   [#43] In reply to [#41]
Copy & move your volume (Ctrl C / Ctrl V)

Select only edges = you have your curves!

(Ctrl C / Ctrl V) again with curves
etc...
et voilĂ ! :)


From: maui (EASYW)
11 May 2016   [#44]
Hi @Pilou,
thanks a lot for your reply!
The gif is so perfect to explain :)

So now I can easily export to 3D pdf also edge geometries, but still I miss a way to convert dimensions to curves...

I tried to dimension the edges, but the dimensions will be just as when dimensioning a solid... and they will not exported to 3D pdf... it seems from the DSM images on their forum that dimensions are converted to curves too...

thanks again
M
From: BurrMan
11 May 2016   [#45] In reply to [#44]
Hey Maui,
The free DesignSpark will only export 3dpdf "facets" mode.. You are looking for the PRC B-Rep mode.

The best you can do in the free one is you can use the project to plane sketch tool to convert the "text" to curves... Draw your own leaders.
From: maui (EASYW)
12 May 2016   [#46]
Hi @BurrMan,
The best you can do in the free one is you can use the project to plane sketch tool to convert the "text" to curves... Draw your own leaders.
I knew that, but what I cannot achieve is how to project to sketch the dimensions or just their text...
I couldn't find any tutorial and the only reference I found it this:
http://help.spaceclaim.com/dsm/2012.1/en/ProjectToSketch.htm
but I couldn't find a way to apply this ...
I cannot complete the projecting operation...
thanx again
M
From: Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
12 May 2016   [#47] In reply to [#46]
You have quasi nothing to do! :)

Copy move a face of your object
Increase its size for have a sort of Projection Screen
Call the Project function
Enable Project Silhout Edges



Copy move the edges anywhere you want, Kill the "screen" : etc...
That's all! It will be the same for a dimension created, edges selected first etc...!
From: maui (EASYW)
12 May 2016   [#48]
@Pilou thanks a lot for your help!!! Finally I got what I needed :D
@BurrMan now I have only to manually add the leaders...

thanks to all in this forum!
it is very helpful :)
From: BurrMan
12 May 2016   [#49] In reply to [#48]
Maui,
Dimension the part in MoI with max's dimension script. It will make dimension geometry, not the special dimension blocks. Save time.
From: maui (EASYW)
13 May 2016   [#50] In reply to [#49]
Hi @BurrMan, I'll have a look...
Thanks :)

From: Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
19 Jan 2019   [#51]
Don't returned to this one for a while!
DesignSpark Mechanical
It's now 4.0 totally free with all powerful functions present!

Install is very long so be patient!
Register is only mail + password! Multi-languages! Free!
So a SpaceClaim light!

https://www.rs-online.com/designspark/mechanical-download-and-installation

Boolean functions and powerful fillets!

Old powerful functions disapeared are come back!


From: Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
20 Jan 2019   [#52]
Launch the V 4.0 , close the Home Page arrived inside the prog
import the MOI file STP in the V 4.0 (Menu File "Open")

The Format STP is "only read" but...
... use the same old trick!

Go to the head of the arborescence, draw a 3D SPhere
and Right click on the head arborescence then click the enabled case Lock for "unclick it" !

And have fun direct modeling!



All will works fine! :)



Else direct importation SKP format works fine in the DSM V 4.0! ;)
It imports not textures, only color and name Group/component arborescence!





From: Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
20 Jan 2019   [#53]
Always tricky for go from DSM 4.0 to Moi 3D! ;)

Save in native format MyObject.rsdoc inside DSM
- rename it in MyObject.zip
- unzip and search inside the Unzipped folder a file .sab inside folder SpaceClaim / Geometry
so something like part1bodies.sab

Say you put part1bodies.sab in a folder Pifou on your Desktop

Just type the 2 following lines (in a single "command line" ) replace of course Pilou by your user name! :)
( Key Logo Windows + R)

"C:\Program Files\DesignSpark\DesignSpark Mechanical 4.0\SabSatConverter.exe" -i "C:\Users\Pilou\Desktop\Pifou\part1bodies.sab"
-o "C:\Users\Pilou\Desktop\pifou\MyBeautifulObject.sat"

You can now reload the file inside Moi3D! :)

That all! :)





I am affraid the inverse Moi3D to DSM will be not so simple! In fact yes : just use the Step file format! :)
From: Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
20 Jan 2019   [#54]
For any file stp to DSM

Launch the DSM V4.0

Load the file ".stp"

And make the little tricky create "Sphere 3D" and unlock on the top arborescence! (as seen some post above)

That's all! :)

the file step created in Moi3D


Inside DSM

From: Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
22 Jan 2019   [#55]
Always fun to use! :)




From: Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
22 Jan 2019   [#56]
"Step" files from Moi are good for direct importation!
(but the trick of the Sphere "unlocked" always indispensable for modify it inside DSM - 2 seconds! ;)

- Direct export save as STL, OBJ, SKP works fine!

- Only nurbs format Sab / Sat should have the trick of the "command line" shown above! (5 seconds) :)

PDF 3D...seems always not visible but maybe i forgotten something again! :)
(and i am not sure to have always a pdf 3D viewer! If you have a Pdf 3D on line...
(or use the V 1.0 collector : http://designspark5.rssing.com/chan-33180489/all_p3.html
From: Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
23 Jan 2019   [#57]
With Magica...!

Winter-Spring


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From: Mr. Yuri (MR_JURAJ)
9 Feb 2019   [#59]
I wish editing finished models in MoI would be so easy as in DSM. Or MoI have some sort of easier part edit.
From: JerryBerry
3 Mar 2019   [#60] In reply to [#53]
This isn't working for me. I converted the sab file successfully ( as far as i know) but then it doesnt open in moi. Can you take a look at this sab and sat file and make sure it works for me? i would appreciate it a lot! :)

Attachments:
Converted.sat
part1bodies.sab


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