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From: BurrMan
18 May 2012   [#73] In reply to [#72]
I was meaning to get this off to you to see if it would spark something, but it looks like I'm too late.



But also, the rim you got looks great too!
From: TpwUK
19 May 2012   [#74] In reply to [#73]
Thanks for the post, I need to watch that again soon - There were some things you did with the little pointy bit that I didn't get, also with the arc at the beginning too. But I am going to be rushed off my feet this weekend, so probably won't get the chance to try it again until after the marriage. I like your style though, you make it look easy, so i must be over-thinking it.

The moor i like at the photo the more it seems to be that the spokes are like a sleeve fit over the rim and the end parts attach to the hub, but then the blends and fillets unite it all together there after. If you look at the rim, and the section between the spokes, you can see how one seems to be lofted and the other appears to be a blend or fillet. I will hone my skills some more and have another go in the future, but for now, it will do. The file size is 71mb so far when combined and there is still the tyres to detail and more grills to do so I am guessing it will end up 100mb plus in size and then I will know how well MoI can cope with my crabby style, which is not clean enough to keep the file size down, but i will master it at some stage!

Once again, thanks for the video, it will help, by the way does it have audio this time, or am i a plugin missing from my new install ?

Martin
From: BurrMan
19 May 2012   [#75] In reply to [#74]
Hi tpwUK,
There is no audio. I think audio was on and recorded, but I didnt speak in it, so you arent missing anything...

I dont know if I would pay too much attention to the arc rotation in the begining... I think it could be drawn correctly to start, but I kindof just slopped through it and did the rotation thing.
From: TpwUK
20 May 2012   [#76]
I don't normally do this, but since i have posted a tyre design on here before, you can see i know how to do one already, but i found a wheel rim and tyre from another modelling site and it was in iges format so I thought why not indeed, test MoI with its iges support, the result is pretty good. The original tyre was modelled by joze dwardo, so i thought i had mention that !



With these parts in place the model now grows to 99.7Mb

Martin

Image Attachments:
Reveton-moi-v3-10.jpg 


From: TpwUK
1 Aug 2012   [#77]
I will get round to this again soon, it's not abandoned, I just dont get much time since my wife has had her medications shuffled a bit.

? Michael G. - Has there been any changes in the mesh generating from this v3 beta to the April one. Silly question to ask but, if it's changed then perhaps I should re-start the project again to give the new beta more of the surfacing to do since there is very little to do here now ?

I will try and get this finished by next weekend. Nearly forgot to mention but the new Beta does indeed handle the screen quicker. I cant get frame rates to display so can't measure any other way than by how it feels to me with mouse rotations etc.

Martin
From: Michael Gibson
1 Aug 2012   [#78] In reply to [#77]
Hi Martin,

> ? Michael G. - Has there been any changes in the mesh generating from this v3 beta to the April one.

You mean in the Network command? Nope, no changes recently but there might be for the next one depending on how some experiments turn out.

- Michael
From: TpwUK
1 Aug 2012   [#79] In reply to [#78]
Guess that means I should hurry up and finish this then!

Thanks Michael

Martin
From: TpwUK
3 Aug 2012   [#80]
Still working on this, and the latest beta handles the 103Mbyte file quiet nicely, still needs a few things doing to it, but I wont be doing the interior - lol. Discs still to be done along with front lights, bonnet/hood details, inner wings and wiper(s), then It's gonna be fun rendering it up.

All the best guys - comments are welcome

Martin

Image Attachments:
Reveton-moi-v3-11.jpg  Reveton-moi-v3-12.jpg 


From: zarkow
3 Aug 2012   [#81]
Well Done, very nice, Render please....:-)
From: TpwUK
4 Aug 2012   [#82]
Not as much done today as I had hoped for, but the wife had jobs she wanted doing and therapies she needed to have, but at least I found some time to play, as always ... comments welcome

Martin

Image Attachments:
Reveton-moi-v3-13.jpg 


From: Mike K4ICY (MAJIKMIKE)
4 Aug 2012   [#83] In reply to [#82]
Take your time Martin... your family takes priority of course. The inspiration and time will come sure enough.

I envy you, making a car is my "holy grail". I'm suffering from some kind of mental block that puts the ability to do that just out of reach and I feel that I'm not quite there yet.

Fantastic job so far, It's looking really nice!
From: TpwUK
10 Aug 2012   [#84]
Hi all ....

Hey there Mike, your modelling skills are far superior to mine, just cars is all i ever seem to model other than landscaping projects, which I have not done since my wife suffered HAI, but MoI is going to be used soon to design a new decking area for my own back garden so that we can have a fire escape if needed and so she can get out in the garden and have some privacy while soaking up a few rays....

Speaking of rays, here's a couple of test renders done with V-Ray for SU, but I have a problem or ignorance, not sure which, probably the latter, but despite exporting as OBJ and 3DS and importing into SU, the object names (layers ?) don't seem to get imported and neither do the material (Styles names) ... Which is a pain, but at least the 3DS seems to get converted to components and can be grabbed as big chunks. I have been trying with Blender too, but the geometry is huge on import and despite changing clipping etc, my camera disappears and I cant see it anywhere, but that's a Blender problem not a MoI one ...

Martin

Image Attachments:
Test-Render-001.jpg  Test-Render-002.jpg 


From: TpwUK
11 Aug 2012   [#85]
Found a renderer that suits how I do things, now all i have to do is convince my friend that he don't need his copy of KeyShot ....

What do you think of these test renders, keep in mind it's the first i have played with it, if i can't convince him to part company with his copy - he don't hardly use it - then i have to convince myself that the pro version is like 10 times the cost of MoI !

Now to try and find time to finish this model ... I'll keep ya'll posted

Martin

Image Attachments:
Reventon-2008-Test-001.jpg  Reventon-2008-Test-002.6.jpg 


From: Michael Gibson
11 Aug 2012   [#86] In reply to [#85]
Hi Martin, so is that a KeyShot render there? It's looking good!

- Michael
From: TpwUK
11 Aug 2012   [#87] In reply to [#86]
Yes, that's a KeyShot render, It's pretty quick too. I am going to play with it for a few weeks and determine if it's worth shelling that kind of money out for it, but it's even easier to use than V-Ray. I like software that I can dive straight into and get good results, just like MoI, I don't want to have to take a degree just to render a picture and i most definitely don't have the time to study these days, so have another big thank you from me for producing MoI.

I've got to ask you though, are you a designer who loves programming - or a programmer that loves modelling ?

Martin
From: Marc (TELLIER)
11 Aug 2012   [#88] In reply to [#87]
Hi Martin, take a look at simlab composer also, it much less expensive and I think it uses components of the keyshot renderer, so it's quite fast.

Marc
From: Michael Gibson
11 Aug 2012   [#89] In reply to [#87]
Hi Martin,

> I've got to ask you though, are you a designer who loves programming - or a
> programmer that loves modelling ?

Do I have to pick just one label for myself? ;)

If I had to I guess I would pick the latter with an emphasis on programming. But one of the things that I tend to like about working at a smaller scale rather than as part of a large corporation is being able to do more multifaceted work instead of being focused in a narrow area.

But at the same time programming as a craft tends to require a lot of focus on it specifically since it's so easy to mess up.

- Michael
From: TpwUK
11 Aug 2012   [#90] In reply to [#88]
Will do - Time permitting, and thank you for heads up, the cost is more like my pocket can afford to spend without having to convince myself i have done the right thing - lol

Martin
From: TpwUK
12 Aug 2012   [#91]
Todays progress and fun time with rendering, I must say that I have not had this much enjoyment from rendering and modelling for years. I think i have found MY tools for the foreseeable future ... I know I have goofed the filleting around the side indicator/signaller light fitting but hopefully by the time i have finished with the rest of the fillets and making things have more depth you wont notice so much.

Comments as always are welcomed

Martin

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untitled.10.jpg 


From: TpwUK
13 Aug 2012   [#92]
Got some more done today, and the front sections are almost totally complete. Just the disc brakes to do and some little mapping bits like the bonnet/hood badge.

Martin

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