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That is correct. I will play a little bit more on the laptop, but I mostly just use my desktop, as that is where the beefy h/w is. But the laptop would definately be a bonus.

[EDIT] It is now working on the laptop too! Woohoo!!!

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Hi Phr0stByte, was there any particular change that you did on the laptop to get it working, was it also a video driver tuneup there as well?

- Michael

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Yep - I could not say exactly what fixed it. I just kept monkying with the driver until it worked. I was actually stuck without any display at all in one point and only had tty. Luckily, I got it all back plus the nice little bonus of having MoI working :)

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A little update - I tried to get the MoI v3 beta running on my Macbook Pro too using wine, but I can't get it to run. Any Mac users out there have any input?

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Russian:
Привет всем!
Все сделал так, как вы здесь написали. Но программа запускается в таком виде и выдает следующее сообщение (nVidia GeForce 9600GT, Kubuntu 11.04, Wine 1.3.15):

English (Goggle):
Hi everyone!
I've done everything as you wrote here. But the program is run in such a form and show the following (nVidia GeForce 9600GT, Kubuntu 11.04, Wine 1.3.15):



*** wine MoI.exe

fixme:toolhelp:CreateToolhelp32Snapshot Unimplemented: heap list snapshot
fixme:mountmgr:harddisk_ioctl unsupported ioctl 74080
fixme:mountmgr:harddisk_ioctl unsupported ioctl 2d1400
fixme:system:SetProcessDPIAware stub!
fixme:win:EnumDisplayDevicesW ((null),0,0xe4f804,0x00000000), stub!
fixme:heap:HeapSetInformation 0x110000 0 0xe4f330 4
fixme:advapi:RegisterTraceGuidsW (0x638962c3, 0x63ab1058, {ffdb9886-80f3-4540-aa8b-b85192217ddf}, 1, 0xe4ef78, (null), (null), 0x63ab1058,)
fixme:advapi:RegisterTraceGuidsW (0x638964fa, 0x63aae200, {0cfe0455-93ba-440d-a3fe-553973d0b723}, 1, 0xe4ef5c, (null), (null), 0x63aae208,)
fixme:advapi:RegisterTraceGuidsW (0x638964fa, 0x63aae220, {797fabac-7b58-4796-b924-d51178a59ce4}, 1, 0xe4ef5c, (null), (null), 0x63aae228,)
fixme:advapi:RegisterTraceGuidsW (0x638962c3, 0x63ab1088, {9e3b3947-ca5d-4614-91a2-7b624e0e7244}, 1, 0xe4ef78, (null), (null), 0x63ab1088,)
fixme:ntdll:NtQueryInformationToken QueryInformationToken( ..., TokenElevationType, ...) semi-stub
fixme:msimtf:DllGetClassObject ({50d5107a-d278-4871-8989-f4ceaaf59cfc} {00000001-0000-0000-c000-000000000046} 0xe4f548)
err:ole:apartment_getclassobject DllGetClassObject returned error 0x80040111
err:ole:CoGetClassObject no class object {50d5107a-d278-4871-8989-f4ceaaf59cfc} could be created for context 0x401
err:ole:CoGetClassObject class {82c5ab54-c92c-4d52-aac5-27e25e22604c} not registered
err:ole:CoGetClassObject class {82c5ab54-c92c-4d52-aac5-27e25e22604c} not registered
err:ole:create_server class {82c5ab54-c92c-4d52-aac5-27e25e22604c} not registered
fixme:ole:CoGetClassObject CLSCTX_REMOTE_SERVER not supported
err:ole:CoGetClassObject no class object {82c5ab54-c92c-4d52-aac5-27e25e22604c} could be created for context 0x17
fixme:toolhelp:CreateToolhelp32Snapshot Unimplemented: heap list snapshot
fixme:mountmgr:harddisk_ioctl unsupported ioctl 74080
fixme:mountmgr:harddisk_ioctl unsupported ioctl 2d1400
fixme:toolhelp:CreateToolhelp32Snapshot Unimplemented: heap list snapshot
fixme:mountmgr:harddisk_ioctl unsupported ioctl 74080
fixme:mountmgr:harddisk_ioctl unsupported ioctl 2d1400
fixme:advapi:RegisterTraceGuidsA (0x633fa1fa, 0x634235c0, {0cfe0455-93ba-440d-a3fe-553973d0b723}, 1, 0xe4ee78, (null), (null), 0x634235c8,)
fixme:advapi:RegisterTraceGuidsA (0x633fa1fa, 0x634235e0, {797fabac-7b58-4796-b924-d51178a59ce4}, 1, 0xe4ee78, (null), (null), 0x634235e8,)
fixme:advapi:RegisterTraceGuidsA (0x6340dbc9, 0x63420f20, {4160f1e0-5fc8-41ac-bfec-b60134f2d570}, 1, 0xe4f3e0, (null), (null), 0x63420f60,)
err:ole:CoGetClassObject class {6c736db1-bd94-11d0-8a23-00aa00b58e10} not registered
err:ole:CoGetClassObject no class object {6c736db1-bd94-11d0-8a23-00aa00b58e10} could be created for context 0x1
fixme:advapi:RegisterTraceGuidsA (0x6340dbc9, 0x63420f20, {4160f1e0-5fc8-41ac-bfec-b60134f2d570}, 1, 0xe4f538, (null), (null), 0x63420f60,)
err:ole:CoGetClassObject class {6c736db1-bd94-11d0-8a23-00aa00b58e10} not registered
err:ole:CoGetClassObject no class object {6c736db1-bd94-11d0-8a23-00aa00b58e10} could be created for context 0x1
fixme:advapi:RegisterTraceGuidsA (0x6340dbc9, 0x63420f20, {4160f1e0-5fc8-41ac-bfec-b60134f2d570}, 1, 0xe4f538, (null), (null), 0x63420f60,)
err:ole:CoGetClassObject class {6c736db1-bd94-11d0-8a23-00aa00b58e10} not registered
err:ole:CoGetClassObject no class object {6c736db1-bd94-11d0-8a23-00aa00b58e10} could be created for context 0x1
fixme:advapi:RegisterTraceGuidsA (0x6340dbc9, 0x63420f20, {4160f1e0-5fc8-41ac-bfec-b60134f2d570}, 1, 0xe4f3a8, (null), (null), 0x63420f60,)
err:ole:CoGetClassObject class {6c736db1-bd94-11d0-8a23-00aa00b58e10} not registered
err:ole:CoGetClassObject no class object {6c736db1-bd94-11d0-8a23-00aa00b58e10} could be created for context 0x1
fixme:advapi:RegisterTraceGuidsA (0x6340dbc9, 0x63420f20, {4160f1e0-5fc8-41ac-bfec-b60134f2d570}, 1, 0xe4f3a8, (null), (null), 0x63420f60,)
err:ole:CoGetClassObject class {6c736db1-bd94-11d0-8a23-00aa00b58e10} not registered
err:ole:CoGetClassObject no class object {6c736db1-bd94-11d0-8a23-00aa00b58e10} could be created for context 0x1
fixme:advapi:RegisterTraceGuidsA (0x6340dbc9, 0x63420f20, {4160f1e0-5fc8-41ac-bfec-b60134f2d570}, 1, 0xe4f3a8, (null), (null), 0x63420f60,)
err:ole:CoGetClassObject class {6c736db1-bd94-11d0-8a23-00aa00b58e10} not registered
err:ole:CoGetClassObject no class object {6c736db1-bd94-11d0-8a23-00aa00b58e10} could be created for context 0x1
fixme:advapi:RegisterTraceGuidsA (0x6340dbc9, 0x63420f20, {4160f1e0-5fc8-41ac-bfec-b60134f2d570}, 1, 0xe4f3a8, (null), (null), 0x63420f60,)
err:ole:CoGetClassObject class {6c736db1-bd94-11d0-8a23-00aa00b58e10} not registered
err:ole:CoGetClassObject no class object {6c736db1-bd94-11d0-8a23-00aa00b58e10} could be created for context 0x1
fixme:advapi:RegisterTraceGuidsA (0x6340dbc9, 0x63420f20, {4160f1e0-5fc8-41ac-bfec-b60134f2d570}, 1, 0xe4f3b8, (null), (null), 0x63420f60,)
err:ole:CoGetClassObject class {6c736db1-bd94-11d0-8a23-00aa00b58e10} not registered
err:ole:CoGetClassObject no class object {6c736db1-bd94-11d0-8a23-00aa00b58e10} could be created for context 0x1
fixme:wininet:FindFirstUrlCacheContainerW (0xe473a8, 0xe473b4, 0xe473b0, 0x00000000) stub
fixme:wininet:CreateUrlCacheContainerW (0x1a43ac84, 0x1a43ff50, 0x00e47188, 0x00000000, 0x00000000, 0x00000009, 0x00000000, 0x00000000) stub
fixme:nls:WideCharToMultiByte UTF-7 not supported
fixme:advapi:RegisterTraceGuidsA (0x6340dbc9, 0x63420f20, {4160f1e0-5fc8-41ac-bfec-b60134f2d570}, 1, 0xe4ef08, (null), (null), 0x63420f60,)
err:ole:CoGetClassObject class {6c736db1-bd94-11d0-8a23-00aa00b58e10} not registered
err:ole:CoGetClassObject no class object {6c736db1-bd94-11d0-8a23-00aa00b58e10} could be created for context 0x1
fixme:advapi:RegisterTraceGuidsA (0x6340dbc9, 0x63420f20, {4160f1e0-5fc8-41ac-bfec-b60134f2d570}, 1, 0xe4eef8, (null), (null), 0x63420f60,)
err:ole:CoGetClassObject class {6c736db1-bd94-11d0-8a23-00aa00b58e10} not registered
err:ole:CoGetClassObject no class object {6c736db1-bd94-11d0-8a23-00aa00b58e10} could be created for context 0x1
fixme:advapi:RegisterTraceGuidsA (0x6340dbc9, 0x63420f20, {4160f1e0-5fc8-41ac-bfec-b60134f2d570}, 1, 0xe4ef08, (null), (null), 0x63420f60,)
err:ole:CoGetClassObject class {6c736db1-bd94-11d0-8a23-00aa00b58e10} not registered
err:ole:CoGetClassObject no class object {6c736db1-bd94-11d0-8a23-00aa00b58e10} could be created for context 0x1
fixme:dwmapi:DwmIsCompositionEnabled 0xe4e6bc
fixme:advapi:RegisterTraceGuidsA (0x6340dbc9, 0x63420f20, {4160f1e0-5fc8-41ac-bfec-b60134f2d570}, 1, 0xe4eb10, (null), (null), 0x63420f60,)
err:ole:CoGetClassObject class {6c736db1-bd94-11d0-8a23-00aa00b58e10} not registered
err:ole:CoGetClassObject no class object {6c736db1-bd94-11d0-8a23-00aa00b58e10} could be created for context 0x1
fixme:appbar:handle_appbarmessage SHAppBarMessage(ABM_GETAUTOHIDEBAR, hwnd=(nil), edge=0): stub
fixme:appbar:handle_appbarmessage SHAppBarMessage(ABM_GETAUTOHIDEBAR, hwnd=(nil), edge=1): stub
fixme:appbar:handle_appbarmessage SHAppBarMessage(ABM_GETAUTOHIDEBAR, hwnd=(nil), edge=2): stub
fixme:appbar:handle_appbarmessage SHAppBarMessage(ABM_GETAUTOHIDEBAR, hwnd=(nil), edge=3): stub
fixme:appbar:handle_appbarmessage SHAppBarMessage(ABM_GETAUTOHIDEBAR, hwnd=(nil), edge=0): stub
fixme:appbar:handle_appbarmessage SHAppBarMessage(ABM_GETAUTOHIDEBAR, hwnd=(nil), edge=1): stub
fixme:appbar:handle_appbarmessage SHAppBarMessage(ABM_GETAUTOHIDEBAR, hwnd=(nil), edge=2): stub
fixme:appbar:handle_appbarmessage SHAppBarMessage(ABM_GETAUTOHIDEBAR, hwnd=(nil), edge=3): stub
fixme:appbar:handle_appbarmessage SHAppBarMessage(ABM_GETAUTOHIDEBAR, hwnd=(nil), edge=0): stub
fixme:appbar:handle_appbarmessage SHAppBarMessage(ABM_GETAUTOHIDEBAR, hwnd=(nil), edge=1): stub
fixme:appbar:handle_appbarmessage SHAppBarMessage(ABM_GETAUTOHIDEBAR, hwnd=(nil), edge=2): stub
fixme:appbar:handle_appbarmessage SHAppBarMessage(ABM_GETAUTOHIDEBAR, hwnd=(nil), edge=3): stub
fixme:wininet:FindFirstUrlCacheContainerW (0xe48f04, 0xe48f10, 0xe48f0c, 0x00000000) stub
fixme:wininet:CreateUrlCacheContainerW (0x1a43ac84, 0x1a43ff50, 0x00e48ce4, 0x00000000, 0x00000000, 0x00000009, 0x00000000, 0x00000000) stub
fixme:nls:WideCharToMultiByte UTF-7 not supported
fixme:advapi:RegisterTraceGuidsW (0x132313b8, 0x133f2830, {b2a40f1f-a05a-4dfd-886a-4c4f18c4334c}, 1, 0xe49e30, (null), (null), 0x133f2830,)
fixme:advapi:RegisterTraceGuidsW (0x132313b8, 0x133f2860, {ffdb9886-80f3-4540-aa8b-b85192217ddf}, 1, 0xe49e30, (null), (null), 0x133f2860,)
fixme:advapi:RegisterTraceGuidsW (0x132313b8, 0x133f2890, {5c8bb950-959e-4309-8908-67961a1205d5}, 1, 0xe49e30, (null), (null), 0x133f2890,)
fixme:advapi:RegisterTraceGuidsW (0x13231481, 0x133f12c8, {3e1fd72a-c323-4574-9917-5ce9c936f78c}, 1, 0xe49e10, (null), (null), 0x133f12d0,)
fixme:advapi:RegisterTraceGuidsW (0x13231481, 0x133f12e8, {afff9c82-5be3-4205-9b3e-49e014c09a63}, 1, 0xe49e10, (null), (null), 0x133f12f0,)
fixme:wininet:GetUrlCacheEntryInfoExW Undocumented flag(s): 100
fixme:win:EnumDisplayDevicesW ((null),0,0xe4a770,0x00000000), stub!
fixme:d3d:swapchain_init Add OpenGL context recreation support to context_validate_onscreen_formats
fixme:d3d:swapchain_init Add OpenGL context recreation support to context_validate_onscreen_formats
fixme:mlang:fnIMLangFontLink_ResetFontMapping
fixme:advapi:UnregisterTraceGuids 0: stub
fixme:advapi:UnregisterTraceGuids 0: stub
fixme:advapi:UnregisterTraceGuids 0: stub
fixme:advapi:UnregisterTraceGuids 0: stub
fixme:advapi:UnregisterTraceGuids 0: stub

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Hi Alex,

> Hi everyone!
> I've done everything as you wrote here. But the program is run in such a form
> and show the following (nVidia GeForce 9600GT, Kubuntu 11.04, Wine 1.3.15):

It looks like the Direct3D to OpenGL translation layer of WINE is not working properly for you there.

That could possibly be a bug in WINE or it seems that often the video drivers on Linux can tend to be pretty buggy as well.

You might try a previous version of WINE or try a different version of your video driver.

Unfortunately getting a reliable video driver working on Linux seems to be a big problem.

- Michael

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Wow! The program works on my Kubuntu!

I deleted all the Nvidia drivers and installed new Nvidia manually from the site. And the program started!

Thank you all for your advice and all the luck!

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Hello:

Finally, I got MoI under wine too!
Unafortunately, it doesn't run fine. There are a delay between I click on the mosue and I see the point on the screen.
It's too much delay for considering this method like a real option to get MoI in Linux. :-(

I have:
Linux Mint DE 64 bits
Wine-1.3.29
MoI v3

Seems that hardware acceleration runs ok.

My graphic card NVDIA 6600 GT

Then, ¿It's normal this slow behavior?
Could anyone that uses MoI under Linux give any trick, or information about his machines,SO,wine version, etc...

Thank you

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Hi David, if everything is working ok then I wouldn't think it should be normal to see a delay like that.

It seems that by far the most common issue for running on Linux is problems with the video driver. There seems to be a few different types of video drivers that you can install, one is the built-in "nouveau" one and then there is the nVidia proprietary one. If you are using nouveau currently then you might try switching to the nVidia proprietary driver instead and see if that behaves better.

- Michael

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Thank you Michael.

Actually, I have installed the propietary drivers.
On the other hand, I have started MoI from the console, and I have a bunch of messages (always the same) when I start:

fixme:process:GetSystemDEPPolicy stub
fixme:process:SetProcessDEPPolicy (0): stub
fixme:win:EnumDisplayDevicesW ((null),0,0xe4f8e4,0x00000000), stub!
QWebInspector: QSettings couldn't read configuration setting [resourceTrackingEnabled].
fixme:win:EnumDisplayDevicesW ((null),0,0xe4dcc4,0x00000000), stub!
fixme:appbar:handle_appbarmessage SHAppBarMessage(ABM_GETAUTOHIDEBAR, hwnd=(nil), edge=0): stub
fixme:appbar:handle_appbarmessage SHAppBarMessage(ABM_GETAUTOHIDEBAR, hwnd=(nil), edge=1): stub
fixme:appbar:handle_appbarmessage SHAppBarMessage(ABM_GETAUTOHIDEBAR, hwnd=(nil), edge=2): stub
fixme:appbar:handle_appbarmessage SHAppBarMessage(ABM_GETAUTOHIDEBAR, hwnd=(nil), edge=3): stub
fixme:d3d:resource_check_usage Unhandled usage flags 0x8.
fixme:d3d:resource_check_usage Unhandled usage flags 0x8.
fixme:d3d:resource_check_usage Unhandled usage flags 0x8.
fixme:d3d:resource_check_usage Unhandled usage flags 0x8.
fixme:d3d:resource_check_usage Unhandled usage flags 0x8.



but, when I try to draw anything, I have a lot of messages of errors.
Example, if I draw a line:

fixme:imm:NotifyIME IMC_SETCANDIDATEPOS
fixme:imm:ImmReleaseContext (0x10072, 0x189048): stub
fixme:imm:NotifyIME IMC_SETCANDIDATEPOS
err:ole:marshal_object object doesn't expose interface {1430ab25-4fb6-44b9-8184-cce9ed3bd7d2}, failing with error 0x80004002
err:ole:ClientIdentity_QueryMultipleInterfaces IRemUnknown_RemQueryInterface failed with error 0x80004002
err:ole:marshal_object object doesn't expose interface {1430ab25-4fb6-44b9-8184-cce9ed3bd7d2}, failing with error 0x80004002
err:ole:ClientIdentity_QueryMultipleInterfaces IRemUnknown_RemQueryInterface failed with error 0x80004002
err:ole:marshal_object object doesn't expose interface {1430ab25-4fb6-44b9-8184-cce9ed3bd7d2}, failing with error 0x80004002
err:ole:ClientIdentity_QueryMultipleInterfaces IRemUnknown_RemQueryInterface failed with error 0x80004002
err:ole:marshal_object object doesn't expose interface {1430ab25-4fb6-44b9-8184-cce9ed3bd7d2}, failing with error 0x80004002
err:ole:ClientIdentity_QueryMultipleInterfaces IRemUnknown_RemQueryInterface failed with error 0x80004002
err:ole:marshal_object object doesn't expose interface {1430ab25-4fb6-44b9-8184-cce9ed3bd7d2}, failing with error 0x80004002
err:ole:ClientIdentity_QueryMultipleInterfaces IRemUnknown_RemQueryInterface failed with error 0x80004002
err:ole:marshal_object object doesn't expose interface {1430ab25-4fb6-44b9-8184-cce9ed3bd7d2}, failing with error 0x80004002
err:ole:ClientIdentity_QueryMultipleInterfaces IRemUnknown_RemQueryInterface failed with error 0x80004002
err:ole:marshal_object object doesn't expose interface {1430ab25-4fb6-44b9-8184-cce9ed3bd7d2}, failing with error 0x80004002
err:ole:ClientIdentity_QueryMultipleInterfaces IRemUnknown_RemQueryInterface failed with error 0x80004002
err:ole:marshal_object object doesn't expose interface {1430ab25-4fb6-44b9-8184-cce9ed3bd7d2}, failing with error 0x80004002
err:ole:ClientIdentity_QueryMultipleInterfaces IRemUnknown_RemQueryInterface failed with error 0x80004002
err:ole:marshal_object object doesn't expose interface {1430ab25-4fb6-44b9-8184-cce9ed3bd7d2}, failing with error 0x80004002
err:ole:ClientIdentity_QueryMultipleInterfaces IRemUnknown_RemQueryInterface failed with error 0x80004002
fixme:d3d:resource_check_usage Unhandled usage flags 0x8.
fixme:d3d:resource_check_usage Unhandled usage flags 0x8.


Maybe is better if I ask about that in winehq forum, ¿isn't it?

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I have trying more....

Each time I press the L-button, I get that (only with 1 click):

rshal_object object doesn't expose interface {1430ab25-4fb6-44b9-8184-cce9ed3bd7d2}, failing with error 0x80004002
err:ole:ClientIdentity_QueryMultipleInterfaces IRemUnknown_RemQueryInterface failed with error 0x80004002
err:ole:marshal_object object doesn't expose interface {1430ab25-4fb6-44b9-8184-cce9ed3bd7d2}, failing with error 0x80004002
err:ole:ClientIdentity_QueryMultipleInterfaces IRemUnknown_RemQueryInterface failed with error 0x80004002
err:ole:marshal_object object doesn't expose interface {1430ab25-4fb6-44b9-8184-cce9ed3bd7d2}, failing with error 0x80004002
err:ole:ClientIdentity_QueryMultipleInterfaces IRemUnknown_RemQueryInterface failed with error 0x80004002

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Hi David, those messages are not really significant errors.

For example this one:
SHAppBarMessage(ABM_GETAUTOHIDEBAR, hwnd=(nil), edge=0): stub

This message means that WINE does not implement the shell method that returns back whether there are any auto-hide taskbars set in the Windows desktop. MoI calls that method when you maximize its window to figure out whether to leave a little 2 pixel space on any side of the window where an auto-hiding taskbar is at, so that they can still pop up when you move the mouse to that side of the monitor.

There is not really any mechanism for auto-hide taskbars in WINE, so it's not really a problem that it does not implement that particular windows mechanism.

The other messages are similar - when you draw a line MoI will have some inter-process communication between moi_commandprocessor.exe where the script actually executes, and MoI.exe - that's what those ones like
IRemUnknown_RemQueryInterface failed with error 0x80004002
are about, but that particular call is one that is again not an actual error, it's normal for this particular query interface call to fail in that particular instance.


So none of those messages that you show there seem like they are any particular cause for concern themselves.


Do you possibly have any kind of special anti-virus program also running that might be intercepting inter-process communication ?

- Michael

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Hi David - I guess it could be possible that just the display of those messages to the console is itself taking some amount of extra time.

I'll see if I can tweak things a bit to avoid that level of chatter on the console, maybe that will help a bit.

How long of a delay are you seeing, is it something like a quick hiccup or more like a couple of seconds or what?

- Michael

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Ufff, I'd like that those messages adviced that anything really important. At least I would have any clue.

I haven't got any antivirus program installed.

Maybe the graphic card is not powerful enough?

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Well, if I start MoI from the Icon -without console- I get more or less the same delay.

It's like a quick hiccup. The delay just for don't feel comfortable.

I have just opened a 14 mb file, and I perceive a more delay.

Almost all, when I put the pointer over an object looking for its "object snap" and then when I rotate in 3d viewport.

About this, in small files it doesn't flow fine (there are small leaps) but in the 14 mb files, the rotate is unhandling (big leaps and I can't control the moment to stop the rotation)

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Hi David, well that kind of stuff that you're describing sounds like problems with the video driver.

Poor video driver quality seems to be a big problem with trying to get 3D apps running on Linux.

You might try switching to an older version of the proprietary nVidia driver to see if one of the old versions behaves better for you.

- Michael

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Hello Michael:

Then, there are nothing I can do. :-(

Thank you!

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Hi David,

> Then, there are nothing I can do. :-(

You can try removing your current proprietary driver and instead installing an older version of it - that could possibly avoid whatever glitch is happening in your current version.

- Michael

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Fascinating thread. I left Ubuntu some time ago because no CAD software worked on it. Hopefully this has changed. I am downloading 11.10 as we speak...

Excited...

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Incidentally, what winetricks will I need?

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