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From: Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
11 Sep 2008   [#8]
That works fine for the 2 examples above!!!
Wings3D can save as fbx 5, fbx 6, and ascii fbx
What is your?
http://www.wings3d.com/

Image Attachments:
wings.jpg 


From: falcon76
11 Sep 2008   [#9] In reply to [#4]
In the last version of 3DS Max (2009 & Design 2009) the OBJ importer is the previosly plugin by Guruware gw::ObjIO.
So now the Max importer is now so bad at all.
But FBX is a more modern standard and your work is highly appreciate.

Ciao
Luca
From: PaQ
11 Sep 2008   [#10]
Et voila !









Looks ok too ! That's a great news for max users, thanks a lot Michael !!!
From: Anis
12 Sep 2008   [#11] In reply to [#10]
Hi PaQ...

Can you share your setting when import fbx file to max ?
Maybe you can give me a screen capture of the import dialog window.

Thanks
From: PaQ
12 Sep 2008   [#12]
Well I'm using the default settings, I didn't change anything. Just using the last version for my max version from autodesk.
Looks like it isn't working for you ?
From: Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
12 Sep 2008   [#13]
If that works for Wings3D, seems that must be the same for 3Dmax ;)
From: Anis
12 Sep 2008   [#14] In reply to [#12]
Hi PaQ...

Yeah, its not working perfect for me.
From: PaQ
12 Sep 2008   [#15] In reply to [#14]

From: Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
12 Sep 2008   [#16]
So try Wings3D (it's free) and re export as FBX and now load this new FBX in 3DMAx ;)
From: Anis
12 Sep 2008   [#17] In reply to [#15]
Hi PaQ...

Looks we have different version of fbx importer.
You have the new one.

@pilou...

I will try it...
From: falcon76
12 Sep 2008   [#18] In reply to [#17]
Here you can download the newer version of the FBX importer/exporter for free. It's necessary only a registration (but is not really necessary, at the end you will be redirect directly to the download page).

http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/mform?siteID=123112&id=10775855

Ciao
Luca
From: Anis
12 Sep 2008   [#19] In reply to [#18]
Hi Luca...

thats work great !!!

Ciao !!! :)
From: Michael Gibson
12 Sep 2008   [#20] In reply to [#8]
Hi Pilou,

> That works fine for the 2 examples above!!!
> Wings3D can save as fbx 5, fbx 6, and ascii fbx

That's good news too, because Wings had some difficulty reading in OBJ files also.

So it looks like this will also be the best way to move data into Wings as well as Max.


> What is your?

I think it's fbx 6, or 6.1 to be exact but that is compatible with 6.

- Michael
From: Michael Gibson
12 Sep 2008   [#21] In reply to [#19]
Hi Anis, I think your version you were using was 3 years older than the latest importer. It looks like they have made a lot of improvements to n-gon handling since then.

Anyway that is good to know that you need to update to the latest FBX importer to get a good n-gon import.

As long as you have the newest importer plugin, this will definitely be the best way to transfer data into Max.

- Michael
From: lwan
12 Sep 2008   [#22]
as far as I can tell it works really well in max 2009, but the max9 importer might be broken.

Thank you Michael.
From: falcon76
13 Sep 2008   [#23] In reply to [#21]
Hi Michael, sorry if it's a stupid question.
In this page with the new features of the FBX importer for Max:

http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/index?siteID=123112&id=11804173

one of the key one is:
Support for NURBS export and import

Does it change something in the way we pass the model between the two apps?
Or is the normal feature you use for the translation?

Regards
Luca
From: Michael Gibson
13 Sep 2008   [#24] In reply to [#23]
Hi Luca,

> Does it change something in the way we pass the
> model between the two apps?

No, actually that particular thing does not make any difference - MoI's new FBX exporter will write polygon data to the .fbx file, not NURBS data directly.

I think most programs that read .fbx files will be expecting it to contain polygons and not NURBS surfaces.

If you want to get NURBS data into Max, I think that is already possible currently with using the IGES file format? But I think most people will want to export polygon data from MoI into Max so that you can take advantage of MoI's more advanced meshing mechanism such as creating n-gon meshes...

- Michael
From: Imensah
13 Sep 2008   [#25]
Hi Michael,
I imported it ok into max, xsi and, houdini
In houdini the sphere is imported with no seams, but the other objects look identical to the xsi import with disconnected edges.
As you can see below(xsi screens) there are a lot of seams in the sphere especially at the poles(blue lines depict open edges).
I exported a similar polysphere to fbx format from max, and a nurbs sphere from xsi ; both do not generate disconnected edges.( i have attached both objects )

sorry for the quality of the render..bad gif compression

Attachments:
nurbsSphere.fbx
test.FBX

Image Attachments:
render.gif  wires.gif 


From: Imensah
13 Sep 2008   [#26]
btw... is this going to be an fbx importer for moi as well? and if so were you able to import the nurbs sphere from xsi ok?

cheers!
From: Michael Gibson
13 Sep 2008   [#27] In reply to [#26]
Hi Isaac,

> btw... is this going to be an fbx importer for moi as well?

No, just export to fbx in polygons only for now.

Re: seams in XSI - with those seams being visible it looks like XSI does not read in vertex normal shading information from an fbx file, unless you can find some option for "vertex normals" or "user normals" that you can enable.

XSI will read in vertex normals from an OBJ file though, so I think that OBJ will work better for transferring from MoI into into XSI rather than FBX.

But I should actually be able to make an improvement to FBX export to weld points that share the same normals like along the sphere though, that would remove the seam in this case. You should also be able to use XSI's own built-in weld or "merge vertices" type function to do the same thing and make the averaged normals go across that boundary also.

- Michael

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