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From: rhinouser141
12 Nov 2023   [#1]
Hello together,

I am stuck at a surface transition and wanted to ask for advice.

What would be your tactic to create a beautiful blend / patch like like in the original photo.

I tried the patch command in Rhino 7, it is not ideal.

The patch command in Moi does not work.

I am thankful for any tips and tricks.

I have attached my MoI and Rhino (saved as Version 5) file if you want to try.

Best regards

Attachments:
patch in rhino.3dm
water tap patch moi3d.3dm

Image Attachments:
blend in rhino with moveable starting point.JPG  isocurve extraction.JPG  italian design water tap.JPG  not good.JPG  patch in moi3d.JPG  patch with 12 x 12 uv points.JPG  water tap patch challenge.JPG 


From: rhinouser141
12 Nov 2023   [#2]
I could use the sub-d operations in Rhino 7 and convert the sub-d to a nurbs model, but I wanted to try it the "classical" way without sub-d.

Image Attachments:
sub-d workflow.JPG 


From: Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
12 Nov 2023   [#3]
A simple sweep 2 rails ?


From: rhinouser141
12 Nov 2023   [#4] In reply to [#3]
Thank you PILOU,

but that is not the problem, as i have already this surface.
The hard part is to close the gap to the cylinder surface.
From: Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
12 Nov 2023   [#5] In reply to [#4]
So after Gordon... (Network)


From: Michael Gibson
12 Nov 2023   [#6] In reply to [#1]
Hi rhinouser141, usually it is best to make an initial structure that has sharp edges in it and use fillets to construct the transitions rather than trying to go around and fill in things "patch by patch".

- Michael
From: Michael Gibson
12 Nov 2023   [#7] In reply to [#1]
So more like this:










Basically you don't want to try to directly construct transition areas, you initially want broad simple surfaces and then have extended transitions between them that are then trimmed to make the final outline as opposed to drawing in all the final outlines at the start and trying to fill in surfaces directly between.

Like for example this area here, you don't want to try and fill that in with a surface that follows that boundary area directly, it should be a transition surface that is extended and trimmed to the final edges, not directly constructed to the final edges:





- Michael

Attachments:
water tap patch moi3d_2.3dm

Image Attachments:
faucet1.jpg  faucet2.jpg  faucet3.jpg  faucet4.jpg  faucet5.jpg  faucet6.jpg 


From: rhinouser141
13 Nov 2023   [#8] In reply to [#7]
Thank You very much Michael !!
From: rhinouser141
13 Nov 2023   [#9] In reply to [#7]
Hi Michael,

i downloaded your file and tried to fillet with the 3 corners, also with different options, but i does not work.

Best regards

Image Attachments:
fillet not working.JPG 


From: Michael Gibson
13 Nov 2023   [#10] In reply to [#9]
Try with the v5 beta: https://moi3d.com/beta.htm .

- Michael
From: zarkow
13 Nov 2023   [#11] In reply to [#9]






https://1drv.ms/u/s!AgF6VFezvIYcqyhvZX6hM3zr-8hj?e=xKtbjI
From: rhinouser141
14 Nov 2023   [#12] In reply to [#10]
Thanks ! Not it works.
From: Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
15 Nov 2023   [#13]
Functions Fillet + Blend :)

From: rhinouser141
16 Nov 2023   [#14]
Thank You All for your input. With your ideas and tactics i managed to create a model which i like.
Feel free to download the file if needed.
Rendered in Keyshot.

Best regards

Attachments:
water tap final.stp

Image Attachments:
water tap render 1.jpg  water tap render 2.jpg  water tap render 3.jpg 


From: Ken (OKURO)
16 Nov 2023   [#15] In reply to [#14]
Congrats ! Well done !
Best regards
- Ken -
From: pafurijaz
18 Nov 2023   [#16]
Great achievement, compliments!
From: c3g (LONG)
25 Nov 2023   [#17]
The homework was handed in, I recorded a video of the modeling process, and the faucet was ready in no time. Share with you,
From: zarkow
27 Nov 2023   [#18]
In Plasticity


From: Michael Gibson
27 Nov 2023   [#19] In reply to [#18]
Zarkow, it is not appropriate to post advertisements for Plasticity coupon codes here.

Thanks, - Michael
From: zarkow
28 Nov 2023   [#20] In reply to [#19]
Yes, sorry, you're right, the commercial is my standard video description, I hadn't thought about that. I changed it to a OneDrive link without ads. Today I like to use both tools in combination.

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