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You have also some info about orientation of a surface(s) in Dispersion Script(s) by Max Smirnov! ;)
http://moi3d.com/forum/index.php?webtag=MOI&msg=6486.1

https://moi3d.com/download/scripts/max/vSpray.v.1.1.2014.01.27.zip
https://moi3d.com/download/scripts/max/vSeed.v.1.2.2014.02.05.zip
https://moi3d.com/download/scripts/max/vDrop.v.1.0.2014.01.28.zip
https://moi3d.com/download/scripts/max/vOrientFast.v.1.0.2014.01.28.zip
https://moi3d.com/download/scripts/max/vOrient.v.1.0.2014.01.28.zip
https://moi3d.com/download/scripts/max/vClone.v.1.0.2014.01.26.zip



Only surface by surface!

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Hi Mo,

Nice progress on the Normals Node. I attempted it a while back with no success. Will be watching for updates.

Wayne

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Hi Wayne
It's almost done, although I couldn't figure out some problems. (Like Invert mode)
I'll be happy if you or someone else can improve it. :)
I'll post it soon.

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Hi Mo,
Heavy! Nice results!!!

“Inverse mode”?

Not that i can do what you are doing, but just a heads up. MoI uses “Flip” as the normal direction modifier.

Flip.js????

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Hi BurrMan
Thanks, I couldn't make it work with "Flip" factory, But somehow managed to do it.
It's not perfect but it works ! :)

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"surfaceNormals" node

Outputs the normals of the surfaces in 2 methods.
method 1: Faster, better flow ==> by using normal output
method 2: Slower, more reliable ==> by using "Dir" and "Base" outputs
"Dir" and "Base" can match with "vector/LinebyVec" node and "Points2/GetCrvSFrame" node to generate normals.




inputs:
surface/surfaces
u and v divisions

outputs:
Dir: direction of the normal.
Base: points on the surface.
Normal: surface normals

address:
Points/SurfaceNormals

updates :
Unified Normals option added
Rebuild Surface option added
Invert mode added
Small improvements :)
Instruction file attached

Attachments:
SurfaceNormals.js
SurfaceNormals_Instruction.nod

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Hi Mo,
I can't run your instruction nod because I don't have the Box Center nod.
Can you please post the js file that contains it please.
Cheers
Barry

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Thanks MO for surfaceNormals node and instructional NOD file.

I have been experimenting and have found a possible bug with displaying normals of poly loft surfaces (NOD file attached).
Similarly if you use "Base" pts for locating objects (eg a sphere) the result is spheres bunched up in the same plane as the normal arrows.
Initially I thought it may be that all the facet were untrimmed surfaces, but this did not turn out to be the case.
I'm not sure what it could be...


Any thoughts?
James
https://www.instagram.com/nodeology/

Attachments:
SurfNorm.nod

Image Attachments:
SurfNormPolyloft.jpg 

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Hi Barry
See attached file :)

James
It's interesting.
I extracted edges of a surface and made a new surface with network command and it worked.
I need to check that more.

Attachments:
wnSolids.js

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Hi Mo,
thanks working now.
Barry

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James
I checked your .nod file and tried different ways but the result wasn't what I expected.
I think this situation is something like the one I had earlier :
https://moi3d.com/forum/index.php?webtag=MOI&msg=9581.313

Quote from Michael:


anyway, I've written a small node to solve this problem.

"QuadRepatch" node
Gets quad and triangle trimmed surfaces and regenerate them with "merge" and "network" commands.
Use it before "surfaceNormals" node.
address:
Construct2/QuadRepatch

Attachments:
QuadRepatch.js

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Thanks MO,

QuadRepatch.js did the trick.
I don't think I have encountered this issue before.
Could the code be incorporated within subD/polyLoft node?
James
https://www.instagram.com/nodeology/

Image Attachments:
normCubes.jpg 

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Hi James

It's because "evaluatePoint()" and "evaluateNormal()" functions work with uv parameter space not 3d space.
You need to keep the spacing of surfaces' control points even. Using "QuadRepatch", "Network" or "rebuildcurve" node.

This is possible to integrate "QuadRepatch" code inside "PolyLoft" node,
But I think it's better to keep using "QuadRepatch" node.
As you see in the attached image, "Extrude", "Loft" and "Sweep" nodes cause the same issue as well.
And I'm not sure how many nodes like them need to modify.

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Hello All,

Is it currently possible to get nodes from direct modeling in MOI? something like what Nick does here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Axtxwt9-gww&t=20s

I think this ability could be quite useful because I think you can make node Kitbashes very easy.

I am not sure if Nick's elephant is compatible or is working anymore because it seems he has abandoned it. Anyway here is his Git repository: https://github.com/nkallen/elephant

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He don't develop anymore but you can use that he previous made!
I believe that will work with the principal native " functions" of the V4 !

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Hi PILOU,

I know he stopped developing it further.

What I mentioned is a kind of wish! ( because it is a Node Wish List topic) :-)

I wish I can see something similar (or even better and more robust).

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I am not sure he will make that...he is full time at it's own Nurbs prog for the next years! ;)

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;)

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Hi
I've updated "SurfaceNormals" node.
Rebuild Surface option added.
No need to use "QuadRepatch" node :)
Link:
https://moi3d.com/forum/index.php?webtag=MOI&msg=9581.321

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MO,

Rebuild Surface option is a great addition to your node,
however is there a way to ensure that the rebuilding maintains the orientation of the original surfaces?

If you look at image below, the combination of "Join" & "separateObj" (green nodes) should unify normals (if not already), however the resulting vector array is not directionally consistent.



James
https://www.instagram.com/nodeology/

PS: I had assumed that "INVERT" option would flip the surface normals, but it does not appears to have that effect. Is it doing something else?

Image Attachments:
polyLotNormals.jpeg 

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