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Hi

The latest Mac Wacom driver (6.3.29-6) appears to have resolved the middle button issue, great!

Marc

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Hi Marc,

re:
> The latest Mac Wacom driver (6.3.29-6) appears to have resolved the middle button issue, great!

Over here this driver version isn't behaving well, I seem to get kicked out to the login screen when trying to use the middle button with the pen.

If that's not happening to you maybe it's just on older systems or something.

- Michael

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Hi Michael and Marc,

Just installed the 6.3.29-6 driver, and everything works fine here.

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Me too.....

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Hi Michael,

That's odd, I'm using 10.12.3.
It still works well after a few working sessions.

Marc

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Hi Michael,

I've been using the Feb 9 beta since it was released and i'm mostly happy with it.

Yesterday i noticed a bug that i'm not sure if it's been reported or not:
- When i Join a named part with an unnamed i would expect it to retain the name, if the named part was selected first. This does not always happen with V4.

I've narrowed it down to a reproducible example, a simple box, separate it, join all sides except one, name it Box and then select the last surface(unnamed) and join it.
The box ends up being named Unnamed, rather than box.


Hope it helps!

Dinos

Image Attachments:
box1.jpg  box2.jpg 

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hi,
is that on osx?..cos i can't reproduce it here on win 10 pro. cube stays "box".

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Hi Marco, yes, its in osx.

Dinos

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Hi Dinos,

I'm on osx too (10.9.5) and, here, the object keeps box as name when the unnamed face is joined to the others.

Michel

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Hi Michel,

i just retried my example and yes it does keep the name so its not as reproducible as i thought.
But if i select the unnamed face first and join it then it is named "box" which is still wrong.

I've noticed this issue some time ago but if no one else has it then its probably something wrong with my setup.
I'll look into it some more when i have a chance and I'll let you know.

Dinos

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Hi
I can reproduce it sometimes on V4 OSX but it's OK on V3

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Hi dinos, there is indeed a bug there - the bug is that a cached older version of the objects can be used by the moi_commandprocessor.exe worker process and that means that recently applied changes to names and styles can end up being ignored. It's a little finicky to reproduce because the first time you try it there aren't any cached objects and so the current object goes through and it works ok. You've got to get a mismatch between properties on your current objects and cached objects in order for it to reproduce.

It's another manifestation of the styles bug that Brian reported here:
http://moi3d.com/forum/index.php?webtag=MOI&msg=8814.81

I've been working on a couple of different possible fixes for the next beta.

Thanks for reporting it!

- Michael

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Hi Finema,

> I can reproduce it sometimes on V4 OSX but it's OK on V3

Yeah it's a new bug in V4 because of a new function in V4 where the worker process keeps hold of objects that were recently sent to it so they don't have to be resent by interprocess communication.

- Michael

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Hi Michael,

Thanks for the explanation.
I was about to write that after trying again on the original test I also got the problem...

Michel

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Hi Michael,

thanks for the explanation and it does make a lot of sense why it was so difficult to reproduce.
Its note a huge issue for me and i'll definitely keep using the V4 beta as my primary version of Moi3d.

Dinos

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Just bumping this because I wasn't able to locate it in the thread: Will there be another beta round for 4.0 or is there a scheduled release date now?

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Hi J, there will be a few more v4 beta releases yet, there isn't a scheduled final date right now.

- Michael

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Hi Michael,

In version 3 , the MacBook pro trackpad behaviour for "pinching" and "two finger sliding" is the same. It zooms in/out.
Same also under Windows version 4 beta.

In version Mac 4 beta , by default, the trackpad zooms in/out when "pinching" and pans with "two fingers sliding" but whenever the Mvt, Rotation or Center View control is used, the pan with "two fingers sliding" behaviour changes back to Zoom in/out behaviour and it's not possible to go back to "two fingers panning".

Hope it's not a too obscure description of the problem,


Michel

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Hi Michel, it sounds like a bug that I do have fixed for the next upcoming beta - the bug is triggered on Mac if you do a 2-finger drag but start the initial gesture with one finger in a different window than the viewport (the view controls panel is actually a separate window), then drag over and add the second finger inside the viewport without ever having lifted up the first finger.

If it is the same bug then it should be fixed in the next beta release, please let me know if it isn't. I'll be trying to wrap up the next beta in the next week or so.

- Michael

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Hi Michael,
Yes. It seems to be that bug.
I'll check for it in the next beta.
Thanks for the answer,

Michel

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