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Running the latest v4 Beta Mac Version (on El Capitan, 10.11.6) when I create second window a new moi3d app is launched, Just checking this is not the expected behaviour ?

But the app is looking great on a retina Mac laptop.

Colin

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Seems a replicate variation of my freezing Moi / Forum / Moi! ;)
So I am not alone in the space! :D
http://moi3d.com/forum/index.php?webtag=MOI&msg=8675.103

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Hi Michael and everyone.

I can confirm the same issue raised by Finema :


1•Click lightbulb to open MoI v4, MoI works normally, draw a circle, square, etc.
2•Click lightbulb to "hide" v4.
3•Click lightbulb to "unhide" v4.
The dialog window in the upper righthand corner no longer functions. It is blank, or frozen depending upon state before hide/unhide.

I use Windows 10 Pro 64 Bit.

Thanks.

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I can also confirm finerma
dialog locks up after hiding/unhiding v4

I also use win 10 pro 64 bit

thanks,

Val

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All right, well that gives me some more things to try, and it's also interesting that the hide/show problem is cross platform as well.

- Michael

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Hi Colin,

> Running the latest v4 Beta Mac Version (on El Capitan, 10.11.6) when I create second window a new
> moi3d app is launched, Just checking this is not the expected behaviour ?

Yeah unfortunately this is going to be the way that I have to make it work. MoI expects that each main program window has its own thread and process but there isn't any way on Mac for multiple processes to share a single dock icon.

The way that Apple has implemented multiple windows in its standard application infrastructure is problematic because they have them all inside the same process and sharing a single UI thread which means they can interfere with each other in various ways. If one crashes for example they all crash because they aren't running in separate processes.

So this (multiple app windows) is an area where the standard Apple way is just not good and I don't expect to have MoI follow the standard behavior for this particular thing.

- Michael

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I think someone mentioned this.
'Snaps' have stopped working for me ... and this seems to have migrated to V3.
mid, int, end etc have stopped working.
Windows 10 ..
eric

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Hi eric, are they all enabled on the menu? :


And object snap turned on (highlighted in orange on the main button) ?

- Michael

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Ok, I've finally been able to reproduce the UI freezing problem over here, seems to be easier to reproduce on Windows. When it happens it looks like clicks still do stuff but nothing visually updates. I'll be digging into it.

- Michael

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Hi Michael
No the object snap icon is not on. That is true of both V3 and V4.
but ...
I tried to turn it on in V4 and it did not work. So I opened V3 ... turned it on there and it was on when I reopened V4 .. and it works just fine.
thanks
eric

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<< Ok, I've finally been able to reproduce the UI freezing problem over here

:)

Maybe difficult to find the solution!
All these operating systems are like a jungle!
Good luck!

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Another bit ...
I then tried to save the file and it was frozen again.
I reduced it from full screen ... still would not work.
Back to full screen .. not frozen .. icons all worked and it saved just fine.
I hope that's a working clue.
cheers,
eric

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Ok, so the freezing UI thing is a bug in Qt:
https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-39220
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/14554903/widgets-freezing-after-minimise-window

Shouldn't be hard to solve it, I'll see if I can fix it and a few other things and have a new build tonight or tomorrow.

Thanks everyone for reporting it and narrowing it down!

- Michael

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Hi Pilou,

> Seems a replicate variation of my freezing Moi / Forum / Moi! ;)
> So I am not alone in the space! :D

Yup, it's the same one. The tricky part was it had to do with the window being maximized and then not just switching to another app but minimizing the MoI window.

I think the problem on Mac is the same thing as well but I'm not 100% sure about that one, I haven't been able to replicate it there.

Hopefully the same one fix will solve all these.

- Michael

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Hi Brian,

re:
> Using LineWeb as an example, MoI3 preserves Build options upon exit of command and right click.
> MoI4 does not preserve Build options upon exit of command, and subsequent right click repeat of
> command, but does preserve closed checkbox.

This was due to a bug in control persistence which would only happen for select or moi:Select elements. Thanks for reporting it, I've got it fixed up now for the next beta.

- Michael

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Thanks for the explanation. Makes sense.

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A new Nov-18 beta with some bug fixes is now available. I started a new thread for it here:
http://moi3d.com/forum/index.php?webtag=MOI&msg=8682.1

Hopefully should fix the frozen UI when restoring a maximized window.

- Michael

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Hi Michael
I wasn't keeping up with the times but happy to see new V4 Moi !!! I will start some new drawings with it today. So far older files open and work great. One thing I have always wanted to be able to have is Construct and Transform tabs available simultaneously. Is this easy to do ?

Thanks !! Karl

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Hi Karl, I'm also hoping to release a new beta today hopefully.

re: Construct / Transform tabs, try installing Max's MiniSidepane.js script from here:
http://moi3d.com/forum/index.php?webtag=MOI&msg=8064.8

You can make that script run at MoI startup by putting it in the MoI appdata startup folder. On Windows this is located at %appdata%\moi\startup .

That script will rearrange the side pane like you're asking.

- Michael

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I tried putting the MiniSidepane script in the startup folder and it did not change the sidepane.

I then tried putting it in the commands/ folder and pointing a shortcut key at it. Still nothing.

My friend the computer geek then changed "=== 19454" to "!= 19454" and commented out
a couple of ".remove();" lines, and it worked. Mr. Geek thinks the script might need to be
updated for a different version.

(Written by Mr. Geek ...)

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