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From: moujiik
15 Nov 2017   [#133] In reply to [#124]
Hi Michael. Here it is.
Moujiik

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From: Michael Gibson
15 Nov 2017   [#134] In reply to [#120]
Hi Martin,

> I confirm the experience of Michel, VIP (VINC)
> http://moi3d.com/forum/index.php?webtag=MOI&msg=8675.56
>
> A simple extrude in the new version from NOV 13 still calculates infinitely.
> I also use OS X 10.9.5
> And I have a non-retina display

Yeah so this was still broken on OS X 10.9 and 10.8 , it looks like it's due to a change in dyld starting with 10.10 that I was unknowingly relying on.

It will be fixed for the next beta and if you e-mail me at moi@moi3d.com I'll send you a test version to try.

Thanks, - Michael
From: Michael Gibson
15 Nov 2017   [#135] In reply to [#133]
Hi Moujiik, thanks for posting the file, I can the construction line snap problem over here so I'll be investigating it soon.

- Michael
From: bemfarmer
15 Nov 2017   [#136]
Something is very wrong with my "install" of customui in MoI4, in particular the external scripts.
MoI3 seems to be confused about which external scripts to use (?)
I've been copying variations of draft TruchetTile.js files, and the copies do not seem to go to the right command directory,
or else the wrong command directory is being access by MoI3...
It seems that MoI3 is using the font, or the wrong command directory, hard to tell.
Windows copy file command seemed to be saving the local older copy to file as copy(2), instead of saving the file being copied
as copy(2), but maybe this was an illusion.
Anyway I guess I'll wait for Max's customui for MoI4...
Just reporting this strange situation, I am not really crazy.
- Brian
From: Michael Gibson
15 Nov 2017   [#137] In reply to [#136]
Hi Brian, so the font thing is because the font name is read from moi.ini , which is shared between v3 and v4. I had intended for V4 to use an entry in moi.ini named UIFontNameV4= so it wouldn't interfere with v3's font name, but unfortunately although it reads from UIFontNameV4= , it still saves to the original UIFontName= property used by MoI v3. So yes if you happen to have the Open Sans font installed in your operating system fonts V3 will start to use it.

I'll have this fixed up for the next v4 beta so v4 will use its own separate property and won't interfere with MoI v3's font name anymore. But for now it shouldn't really be doing any harm other than making it kind of feel like v4 is taking over your v3 I guess!

I don't know about the CustomUI scripts problem, but Max says that he's going to make an updated version of it.

- Michael
From: Finema
15 Nov 2017   [#138] In reply to [#136]
Hi Brian,
I have tried CustomUI on V4 and that's work for me on Mac OS 10.13.1.
If you want you can test with modified CustomUi pack in attachment
From: mkdm
15 Nov 2017   [#139] In reply to [#132]
Hello Michael!

I'm glad to know that my tests are useful for you.

@You : "...It's looking like the transition to 64-bit and using a new cross platform graphics layer have not run into problems..."

Good. I understand your point of view.
A "no regression" it's kinda like a "foundation" :)

@You : "...Yup, ...it's something that I'll continue once things stabilize and reach full parity with V3...."

Perfect.
I'm pretty sure that this will be a "quantum leap" for Moi in general!
Leveraging on the modern GPU's power makes a huuuuuge difference :)

Ciao e grazie! (in Italian)
(Thanks!)

Marco (mkdm)
From: wastzzz
15 Nov 2017   [#140]
Hi Michael,
I really miss the snap names when snapping (Mid, End, Int etc..)
Is there a way to get them back?

Thank you,
Max.
From: Michael Gibson
15 Nov 2017   [#141] In reply to [#139]
Hi Marco,

> Good. I understand your point of view.
> A "no regression" it's kinda like a "foundation" :)

Yup, that's it exactly.

- Michael
From: Michael Gibson
15 Nov 2017   [#142] In reply to [#140]
Hi Max,

> I really miss the snap names when snapping (Mid, End, Int etc..)
> Is there a way to get them back?

They'll definitely be coming back but I still have some work to do for implementing them. It's one of just a couple still unfinished areas, it's not that they're just disabled by a setting or something like that. May be something like a couple more weeks before having these last pieces working again.

- Michael
From: wastzzz
15 Nov 2017   [#143] In reply to [#142]
Thanks!
From: bemfarmer
15 Nov 2017   [#144] In reply to [#137]
Thank you Michael.

I'll wait for Max's update. (The customui is working well in MoI4, as far as I can tell.) But meanwhile, I'll do some more
testing of my file copying (perceived) problem/confusion, with some more elaborate test names for *.js. (I'm using notepad++.)

(I've got 391 windows fonts installed, but do not see Open Sans.)

- Brian

Hi Finema, thank you, but I'm on Windows7, customui is working, but I seem to have a problem with script file copying(?).
From: Finema
15 Nov 2017   [#145]
Hi Michael,

I noticed that it was more fluid to create solids (sphere, box, plane) on the V3. There is a slight dead time between the first click and the second click on V4.
Also sometimes it is impossible to create the shape after the first click. Pick panel fields stay empty. (it happens randomly)

Thanks
From: moritzbock (MORITZ)
15 Nov 2017   [#146] In reply to [#138]
Hi Finema,
the CustromUI runs so far and reacts as desired.
Unfortunately, however, no thumbnails are shown in the Obj Library.
Clicking on the saved. 3DM files does not load the models and new models cannot be saved.
The Ext Scripts window will open as expected - but some scripts won't run at all or abort with an error message.
The Snapshot function works like it should.
-moritz





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From: Finema
15 Nov 2017   [#147] In reply to [#146]
Hi Moritz
I only use Extscript, it's because i don't notice thumbnails error.
We are waiting for Max CustomUI update.
From: Tony77
15 Nov 2017   [#148] In reply to [#147]
To me the beta does not work :(

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From: glmr
15 Nov 2017   [#150]
nice.
how much will be an upgrade from v3?
From: Michael T. (MICTU_UTCIM)
15 Nov 2017   [#151]
Thanks Michael G.!

Just curious, what do the numbers under the view name represent?




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From: coi (MARCO)
15 Nov 2017   [#152] In reply to [#151]
quote:
The number up there is the amount of time in milliseconds it took for the last screen draw in that viewport. That will be up there for a while so it will be a little easier to measure display performance as more work is done in that area.

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