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From: mkdm
10 Nov 2017   [#337] In reply to [#335]
Hi James.

Thanks a lot for your sharing! Much appreciated.

Well...I hope ASAP to get my hands on the 12.9 second generation iPad Pro because IMHO,
actually, is simply the "state of the art" device for the greatest mobile (and not only) digital painting experience.


@You : "...In terms of moi3d, it is possible to use the iPad as a second screen with duet,
so laptop screen is fully devoted to Nodeeditor while viewport is assigned to iPad.
And with another soft: Astropad, the iPad Pro can be transformed into a pseudo wacom cintiq."

Thanks for the tip, but I don't own any Mac pc/laptop....only Windows machines.

@You : "...Further....there is a raft of graphic programs built for iPadPro..."

Which is this program you are referring to ?

@You : "...but I would be interested in your opinion of them...."

Certainly, As soon as I get the iPap Pro 12.9 I will let you know my user experience with it!

Thanks.

Marco (mkdm)
From: James (JFH)
10 Nov 2017   [#338] In reply to [#337]
Hi Marco

<< I don't own any Mac pc/laptop....only Windows machines>>

Astropad will only pair with a mac, but Duet Display will work with
a PC desktop. It just may be less needed than for a laptop.

<<Which is this program you are referring to ?>>

Some worth considering are as follows:

• Affinity photo
• Concepts
• Procreate
• Graphic https://appsto.re/de/bM8Pv.i
• iDesign
• Protosketch
• Pixelmator https://appsto.re/gb/lUBh3.i
• Umake

Have a look at youtube video reviews
and when you get iPadPro, download trials
and have a play around...

And have fun!
James
From: mkdm
10 Nov 2017   [#339] In reply to [#338]
Hi James!

Thanks a lot for the detailed info :)

Wow...amazing! I didn't know that Duet can just might work with a PC.
Wanderful!!!

Affinity Photo and Procreate...two super wanderful products! State of the art software, like Moi!

I can't wait to see myself in action with my next iPad Pro :)

Now I don't want to write here to much things about this matter because this thread is called "V4 Wish List"....

Thanks again for your suggestions.

Ciao!
From: Moriturimax
11 Nov 2017   [#340] In reply to [#46]
From another direction... how long has V4 been in the works? Got it a few months back and just haven't had the time to dive back in to using it.. other projects.
From: Michael Gibson
11 Nov 2017   [#341] In reply to [#340]
Hi Moriturimax, I've been working on v4 for 2 and a half years so far, it's taken a lot longer than I had originally hoped it would. But it sets a better foundation for going forward especially for the Mac version.

- Michael
From: Michael Gibson
12 Nov 2017   [#342]
Ok, curve display almost fully implemented, just dash/dot patterns left! I'll see if I can just finish that up and I should be able to do the first release tomorrow.

- Michael
From: raytownmike (HOPPER)
12 Nov 2017   [#343] In reply to [#342]
I for one is looking very much to seeing the release. I just love this app!
From: Marc (TELLIER)
12 Nov 2017   [#344]
Whoop Whoop Whoop!!
From: Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
12 Nov 2017   [#345]
End of the suspense ? :)
From: eric (ERICCLOUGH)
12 Nov 2017   [#346] In reply to [#345]
Wonderful! I can stop holding my breath.
eric
From: mkdm
12 Nov 2017   [#347] In reply to [#342]
Thanks a lot Michael!!

...and you beat McNell again :)

Rhino V6 in still in WIP and this situation lasts for so long that I really can't remember when it started :)

Ciao!
From: Moriturimax
12 Nov 2017   [#348] In reply to [#341]
Awesome, is there an official "feature list" by you for what we can expect in V4? I'm still finding navigating this forum software a little daunting/intimidating.

Cheers!
From: Michael Gibson
12 Nov 2017   [#349] In reply to [#348]
Hi Moriturimax, well for the initial v4 beta release the main new things are that it's now a 64-bit program so it can use all the available memory on your machine and the Mac version is now a native compiled version and doesn't use Wineskin anymore which fixes a lot of various problems on the Mac.

That may not sound like much but it has taken a really big effort and a lot of rewriting of MoI's internals to make that happen.

Now that the beta process will be starting and the low level rewrite is complete, I'll be working on adding brand new features soon. I won't know specifically which features will be in the final v4 release until it's done though. But some areas that are likely targets are instancing and grouping as discussed in this thread. It's difficult to make a specific prediction because sometimes a particular thing may end up being significantly more difficult than initially anticipated.

- Michael
From: mkdm
12 Nov 2017   [#350] In reply to [#349]
@Michael : "...because sometimes a particular thing may end up being significantly more difficult than initially anticipated..."

Unfortunately, or... inevitably, this is the brutal reality that every software developer must accept :)

Ciao!
From: Michael Gibson
12 Nov 2017   [#351]
Ok dash/dotted lines will have to wait, the first release will be missing those and text labels in viewports but that should be it for missing display features.

But I just found out that the Mac trackpad navigation seems to have gotten broken somehow so I'm going to investigate that a little bit to see if I can fix it.

- Michael
From: mkdm
16 Nov 2017   [#352] In reply to [#338]
Hi James.
I apologize with Michael and all you guys,
if I use this channel to ask you a private help, but at the moment I don't know who to ask.

Yesterday I bought a wanderful new iPad Pro 12.9 second gen with Pencil.
Wanderful device!!

But…what a terrific and bad surprise!!!
Nobody told me about that!!!

The drawing experience is totally ruined!

Because when the iPad Pro's screen is perfectly clean the Apple Pencil writes silky smooth and is perfect, but with some finger smudges it turns all scratchy and tacky.
When the pencil writes over the smudges area the screen literally feels defective (humps, scratchy, tacky/draggy) with terrific feedback over that areas!!!

This is terrible. I continuously need to swipe the screen with a microfiber cloth.
But...This is not possible because the iPad is a multitouch device !!

Please, help :)
How did you solved this problem ?
Are you using a particular kind of "paper like" screen protector ?
(Do you know this one ?
https://www.geevon.com)

Or are you using a different method ?

I really need help.
Thank you very much for you help and I'm sorry again for this private "public" message.

Thanks.
From: James (JFH)
16 Nov 2017   [#353] In reply to [#352]
Hi Marco,

My experience was different.
When I first used it I found the haptic feedback to be quite unnatural.
(ie not like pen or pencil on paper). But in time I grew use to it,
and don't think of it in comparison; rather just accept it is as it is.

I'm not familiar with geevon. Seems like a lot of money for an A4 plastic sheet.
If it does what it states it may be the solution you are looking for.
Nevertheless, hold of getting it just yet; and see if you become accustomed to the feel of pencil on the screen.

James
From: Przemas
16 Nov 2017   [#354]
For me subcomponent edits would be a significant step up for MoI - kind of thing you have in Rhino, when you can select a for example one of the surfaces of the box (ctrl+shift subcomponent select), scale it and all connected surfaces will update as well.
Well and also linux support would be great as my main workstation is Linux based - even semi official / not fully supported option would work. It could even be a "simple" WINE wrap + let's say appimage / flatpak for cross distro compatibility ( I use quotes as personally I have one problem with wine and MoI I've been unable to sort out).
From: Michael Gibson
16 Nov 2017   [#355] In reply to [#354]
Hi Przemas,

> I use quotes as personally I have one problem with wine and MoI I've been unable to sort out

Can you describe the problem?

- Michael
From: mkdm
16 Nov 2017   [#356] In reply to [#353]
Hi James.

Thank you very much for your kind help!

I answered you at http://moi3d.com/forum/index.php?webtag=MOI&msg=4446.143
because I don't want to saturate here this "V4 Wish List" thread with off topic arguments :)

Please read my reply and if you want tell me what do you think about.

Thanks.

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