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From: Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
3 Sep 2018   [#358]
Deep Learning for images * 600 % (99$)
Impossible to make more neat!

https://topazlabs.com/ai-gigapixel/


From: amur (STEFAN)
4 Sep 2018   [#359]
Hi Pilou,

i just purchased the IMHO awesome Cubik Studio...which allows you to do that
with different materials for colors... As you can see in my picture i exported
a divided sphere from MoI with different styles and then run it through Cubik
Studio. You then have separate objects, which you can then give a different
material in SimLab Composer, i strongly assume.You can also import textured
.obj into Cubik Studio!!!! :-)

P.S. these are then Vertex Colors... I hope SimLab Composer can import and
show vertex colors!

P.P.S. sorry, Pilou it also divides when using complex models in different
areas with more colors, so you need a Polygon Modeler, which a. can
import Vertex Colors and b. then you have to join/seprate the polygons
where the colors are, to get different materials...


It cost only under 20 € and is IMHO well worth it.

Cubik_Studio
image host

Regards
Stefan
From: Metin Seven (METINSEVEN)
4 Sep 2018   [#360] In reply to [#359]
Interesting, Stefan. Is Cubik Studio a MagicaVoxel / Qubicle competitor? I'll Google it and have a look.
From: Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
4 Sep 2018   [#361]
Thx for the efforts!

for the moment i have made hundred of tests! (with programs I have) in a tonne of format! OBJ, DAE, PLY, 3DS
Meshmixer, MeshLab, Wings3D, Blender, SketchUp, pConPlanner and the Voxel Magica, Goxel
(i don't want use Zbrush or 3DCoat because I want a free solution ! ;)

Problem is that Magica produce objects in OBJ formats following that you have made
- one files where colors must be separated in Simlab (impossible easily for the moment)
or
- multiple files (when you make separated objects) who can't be reloaded mysteriously in simLab at the good place! (and manually one by one)
For the moment best is used SketchUp (.skp) - because arborescence of Objects/ colors are reloaded in one time inside Simlab!
but you must load one by one the objects inside SketchUP before export!
An another mystery is all formats dae, 3ds arrive without colors inside SketchUp!
so the Graal for this easy thing is not yet found! :)

Maybe I miss an option inside Magica for have a "group" of "objects" who can export in one time as group(s) for arrive as arborescence inside SimLab?...

Ps i have found a free Poly2Voxel here http://advsys.net/ken/download.htm! ;)
Right click on your OBJ file object / open with Poly2Voxel

A master Of Magica! It's really a magical program! ;)




From: Metin Seven (METINSEVEN)
4 Sep 2018   [#362]
Hey, Cubik Studio stole two of my works for their homepage, without asking for permission (the man on the moon and the gamer on an island). I'm not happy about this and will contact them.
From: amur (STEFAN)
4 Sep 2018   [#363]
Hi Pilou,

i understand, your task with Magica Voxel seems not be so easy. I for myself needed
a solution to have textured Voxels from .obj wich i can easily manipulate in Shade3D.

Later i can then bake textures from such a quad mesh for Maxwell Render.

Bildschirmfoto_2018-09-04_um_11.34.10_Kopie
schnell bilder hochladen

Hi Metin,

that is really not nice from them! Hope you get it sorted out!

Regards
Stefan
From: amur (STEFAN)
4 Sep 2018   [#364]
Hi Metin,

i just checked out your beautiful Voxel works. Really nice images!

How long does it take to work on such images and what editor
have you used?

Best regards
Stefan
From: Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
4 Sep 2018   [#365] In reply to [#52]
I have found a forum about Magica Voxel in French but here in English! ;)
https://discordapp.com/channels/260458461677092864/368348851796574220

and of course this blog! ;)
https://twitter.com/ephtracy

by John Kearney

From: Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
4 Sep 2018   [#366]
@ MagicaVoxel users!

The OBJ import is yet existing if the button itself don't exist any more on the last version!
(OBJ, vox,Xraw, qb,PNG,TGA), maybe other who knows!
Just DRAG & Drop your file on the screen !!! Excellent!
You can drag & drop during a rendering!!!
this program is realy a true gem!


From: Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
4 Sep 2018   [#367]
http://industriesoftitan.com

Somptuous! StarShip & City is of Course by MagicaVoxel!




From: amur (STEFAN)
5 Sep 2018   [#368]
Testing my Voxel workflow, to get nice quad meshes.

Export as .vox from Magica Voxel and then import into Cubik Studio.
After that export .obj and in Shade3D merge all faces and make them
quads. Then into ZBrush and UV and bake texture from Polypaint.

With this quick workflow in can render then nice Voxel forms, with
wireframe render. Image shows little girl from Magica Voxel.

girl_MV

Regards
Stefan
From: Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
5 Sep 2018   [#369]
@Magica Users

Eureka! (no need the program above! ;) (sorry for the late resolution of the mystery! :)
(so a free solution)

It was so simple as usual! :)

You can make one Drag and Drop MULTIPLE in one time!!!

So if you have several separated objects inside MagicaVoxel when you Export them you obtain several OBJ file with different name (name01, name02 etc)

So you can make a Drag & Drop Multiple to SimLab Composer Light!!!



For MagicVoxel you must be in "Edit Mode" !


From: Metin Seven (METINSEVEN)
5 Sep 2018   [#370] In reply to [#364]
Thank you Stefan!

I started my first voxel works in 3ds Max, around 2006 or so I guess. There was no dedicated voxel editor that I know of back then. I used the 3ds Max grid snapping and extruded faces of a tesselated cube.

Some time later I discovered a voxel editor by an independent developer, called Paint3D for Windows. I made a lot of my early voxel works using that, but I believe it doesn't exist anymore. Its website — http://paint3d.net — seems unresponsive.

Some other editors followed, such as Sproxel — http://sproxel.blogspot.com/2011/07/sproxel-v04-released.html — but that's also discontinued.

Then I bought Qubicle Constructor — http://qubicle-constructor.com — and used that for a while. It's quite a competent voxel editor.

I've also used Voxel on the iPhone / iPad — http://www.flatblackfilms.com/Voxel/voxel_index.shtml — for a while.

Another voxel editor is VoxelShop — https://blackflux.com/node/11 — but it runs on a Java layer, which I dislike.

The past few years I've been using MagicaVoxel. It's rapidly evolving into the ultimate voxel editor. I really like its UI, speed, smooth workflow and versatility.

Regards,

Metin

———————

visualization • pixel art • illustration • animation • 3D design — https://metinseven.nl
From: Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
5 Sep 2018   [#371] In reply to [#370]
Goxel is some cool and had a little langage behind (not obligatory ;)

https://blog.noctua-software.com/goxel-procedural.html
From: amur (STEFAN)
5 Sep 2018   [#372]
Thank you Metin, for the detailed explanation!

I like MagicaVoxel too, after exploring it's feature set and like also it's modeling
environment. The only thing i dislike is it's mesh export (no nice quads), but
for this i found my solution. Texture support for import would be also a nice
feuture to have, but for a free app i can't complain... ;-)

Regards
Stefan
From: Metin Seven (METINSEVEN)
5 Sep 2018   [#373] In reply to [#371]
Goxel looks interesting, thanks Pilou.
From: Metin Seven (METINSEVEN)
5 Sep 2018   [#374] In reply to [#372]
My pleasure, Stefan. I agree, MagicaVoxel is the star of the voxel show at the moment.
From: archetype (FABIENF)
5 Sep 2018   [#375]
Hi all,

Since we're talking about voxels here frequently - did anyone check out Cinema 4D's Volume modeling system (based on OpenVDB) yet?

From playing with the R20 demo version a bit and looking into a lot of intro videos, it actually seems to be an extremely powerful and versatile tool. Likely a game-changer for a lot of organic modeling tasks.

I presume this is very much like the MOP Booleans Kit for MODO, though I am not exactly sure. 3DCoat has voxels at it's core too, but afaik, they are not working in a non-destructive fashion - which is what makes it so powerful in C4D. Almost anything that generates geometry (including splines, particles, even shaders) can be used and combined (in boolean fashion) which is quite an amazing feat.

Here are some interesting links:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xR2Uozqcd0M

https://www.cineversity.com/vidplaylist/volume_3_siggraph_2018_rewind

https://twitter.com/i/status/1034485610193608705

- Fabien
From: Metin Seven (METINSEVEN)
5 Sep 2018   [#376] In reply to [#375]
Hi Fabien,

Thanks for the links. C4D's OpenVDB volume modeling looks very useful, but except for the interesting non-destructive approach I see nothing that wasn't already possible using ZBrush and/or 3D-Coat, both of which are also based on voxels.

ZBrush offers Live Booleans, which also offer you to manipulate Boolean sub-objects in realtime until you're satisfied. And you can smoothly melt everything together using Dynamesh or Boolean + Tessimate.

The C4D screwdriver creation video reminds me of the recent Project Primitive deformer addition in ZBrush 2018. A really powerful tool once you get the hang of it:



In Blender you can mimic OpenVDB's type of combining and melting together meshes using Dyntopo in Sculpt Mode.

There's also a free OpenVDB Blender add-on offering the functionality to Blender users (too bad there's no version for Blender macOS yet):

https://blenderartists.org/t/addon-openvdb-remesh/1102023

What I miss in both Blender and C4D is an advanced auto-retopology tool like Zbrush ZRemesher or 3D-Coat Autopo, following the flow of an object with clean, all-quad topology, suitable for subdivision.

Regards,

Metin

———————

visualization • pixel art • illustration • animation • 3D design — https://metinseven.nl
From: archetype (FABIENF)
5 Sep 2018   [#377]
Hi Metin,

Thanks for chiming in. I can see that if you are more into purely organic modeling and perhaps character design and sculpting, zBrush and 3DCoat will be much better.

As for me though, I feel much more comfortable having parametric objects and complete non-destructive tools at my disposal.

I'm a (product) designer, so being able to tweak a concept easily and almost infinitely makes a lot of sense, especially since you can throw in some primitives and other elements that are more less well defined (in a numeric/technical) way. You have a lot of control in C4D, and most parameters take actual measurement values. Not to mention non-destructive falloff objects (called 'fields' in R20) for even more control.

I guess it all depends on your mindset. Although I have both zBrush and 3DCoat, I never really enjoyed working in them - I find the sheer amount of tools and panels in both apps a bit overwhelming to be honest. It's why I prefer MoI to Rhino, which I happen to own as well.

I'm going to test C4D some more. I've used it quite extensively some 15+ years ago, but never really touched much thereafter, and used Modo for (mostly) rendering instead. R20 has some compelling features though, so I'm reconsidering adding it to my toolbox again.

- Fabien

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