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From: amur (STEFAN)
21 Jun 2021   [#1008]
Hi Metin,

are you sure that a CSG modeler can use spline objects?

I always thought that they can only use primitives.

Regards
Stefan
From: Metin (METIN_SEVEN)
21 Jun 2021   [#1009] In reply to [#1008]
Hi Stefan,

SDF modelers can basically use any shape the developer adds to the engine. If you look at Clayxels and Mudbun...

https://andrea-intg.itch.io/clayxels

http://longbunnylabs.com/mudbun/

... those have splines, and in Cinema 4D's SDF implementation you can also use splines and any other shape that's available.

Regards!
From: amur (STEFAN)
21 Jun 2021   [#1010]
Hi Metin,

thanks for the info.

I was confused by the term CSG in the name of the software.

Regards
Stefan
From: Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
21 Jun 2021   [#1011]
Indeed! Another world to explore! :)

From: Metin (METIN_SEVEN)
21 Jun 2021   [#1012] In reply to [#1011]
Yeah, I really like Mudbun and Clayxels. I'd love to use them, but they both need Unity, and I don't like Unity's UI / UX. It feels dated and bloated, and Unreal Engine's renderer is better.
From: Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
23 Jun 2021   [#1013]
Collector! By Chipp! ;)
https://filedn.com/lLMW4jXsJqxXkRYjd1UCoKL/3d/Create3DLikeASuperhero.pdf
From: Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
24 Jun 2021   [#1014]

From: Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
24 Jun 2021   [#1015]
Nvidia Studio Canvas : beta released https://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2021/06/23/studio-canvas-app/ (free)

but need big cards!
Fortunately can be works "Online" named Gaugan! :
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/research/ai-playground/

my little Gaugan try! :)

From: Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
24 Jun 2021   [#1016]
The 2300 others! :)


From: ed (EDDYF)
24 Jun 2021   [#1017] In reply to [#1015]
I just gave the on-line GauGAN a try after seeing Frenchy's posting. After 30 minutes I have this old road in the hills:



Same input drawing, but this output below mimics the style of an unrelated reference image - with just the click of a button! Notice the bright sun highlights the hill in the background as well as the rocks & vegetation in the foreground.



After 1 hour of practice - a river & some mountains & some foggy mist: Welcome to Washington State ! Using Affinity Photo, I made a curves adjustment and added a gradient to bring some blue into the sky. Warning: This program is addictive :)

The original output showed two clouds on the right, as per my drawing. When I selected a reference drawing to mimic, the clouds were gone. My input drawing becomes a recommendation and the AI decides what is best :)

Me: Add two clouds on the right, HAL.
HAL: I'm sorry, Ed. I'm afraid I can't do that.
Me: What's the problem?
HAL: I think you know what the problem is, just as well as I do.



I'm modeling a car in MoI and have a specific background plate in mind for rendering.

After this little experiment I'm encouraged to practice more. This program along with some post editing in Affinity Photo may get me what I want.

Ed Ferguson
From: Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
24 Jun 2021   [#1018] In reply to [#1017]
How fun is it, and incredible, is not it! :)
From: Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
25 Jun 2021   [#1019]
PS Have you seen that you can imput your own paintings or some masterpieces over something yet made ? :)

See next post! :)
From: Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
25 Jun 2021   [#1020]
And have you seen that you can add any painting on your landscape!

Here i added the Joconda from Leonado da Vinci :)
Seems i have distressed the IA! :)


From: ed (EDDYF)
25 Jun 2021   [#1021]
Mountain Road

After a little more practice this evening.

Ed Ferguson

http://nvidia-research-mingyuliu.com/gaugan


From: Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
25 Jun 2021   [#1022]
Always amazed by that! Excellent! Bravo for the try!

here with a Moi object! :)


From: mkdm
26 Jun 2021   [#1023] In reply to [#1021]
I' sorry if I my sound a little bit rude...but, for me personally, computer generated graphic is absolutely NOT art, at all.

Even a monkey can press a button and let things happen (with all due respect to monkeys).

Art is just something else.
From: mkdm
26 Jun 2021   [#1024]
P.s.

For the sake of completeness, I mean "automatic computer generated art", that is every kind of digital contents not directly created by artists but merely created by mathematical algorithms written by developers and scientists.

That kind of content, for me, is absolutely NOT art.
From: Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
26 Jun 2021   [#1025]
Seems the ED's image is entierely controled by him...place, form, nature of type of filling...
he don't say its art, he said that is photo as background for some objects! ;)


From: Subpa (SUBPATH2)
26 Jun 2021   [#1026]
Well, this Monkey example is used often. But I don't think a monkey could do that,
in the end people are needed to make these pictures and even more
important to evaluate them what no monkey and no software could do.

Besides, I find it difficult to say what is art and what is not nowadays.
Why not just stay open for new possibilities.

I think something like this can be used to visualize ideas? Or as a
template for a picture that is painted by yourself.
From: ed (EDDYF)
26 Jun 2021   [#1027] In reply to [#1026]
Who claimed it was art?

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