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From: PaQ
Hello there,
Michael I'm sorry this appends in our cool community, it's the last time I post about this.
Hi Phil,
I have full respect for you, but stress or not, this guy has a real communication skill problem :
http://forums.luxology.com/discussion/topic.aspx?id=44663&page=6
So now the 'moi to octane' thread is locked, everyone requesting about vertex normal issue will extend the fix for one week.
( ... supposed he really has the skills to fix it, which is not proved so far :P ... sorry, I can also act like an a* )
I'm really sad for Son Kim, at least I was refound :/ (excpet the GT260 I just bought for Octane :P ... looks like thea is on his way too).
... I often turn my wife crazy, my boss from time to time, but it's the fist time I burn out a developper :)
Cheers guys, and thanks for your support.
From: ed (EDDYF)
I just got done reading the entire thread referenced above. All I can say is, "Wow".
I can understand beta status and bugs, but I can't begin to comprehend the response to the users.
I guess I'm lucky I'm only out $136.
From: DannyT (DANTAS)
That goes for me too, Wow! after reading the thread on luxology forum, this is very serious and the offensive language used by Radiance.....very unprofessional, with that attitude no ones a winner.
I started to look into Octane, but.................?
I'm recording my favorite TV show tonight, this is much better drama ;)
Cheers guys and good luck
~Danny~
From: Grendel
Wow is right....having second thoughts about Octane....
From: BurrMan
Even I.....The KING of poor forum judgement, just spilled my coffee all over myself.
From: neo
You got to love the net...reading that thread Radiance's FOUL language and attitude towards beta users...Oh well he just saved me some money and a lot of wasted time on testing his product :(
From: gristle
Wow, not good. I didnt buy a license, won it... but still.
Funny timing, this week in a course I am helping with,
we discussed the infinite memory of the internet and how things can come back and bite you.
A good example.
From: Micha
I installed the Demo today, because I was curious how fast an interior is rendered. The meshes from Rhino wasn't shown right and the scene navigation was difficult. I stoped my test. With mesh display problems the renderer is not useable.
From: WillBellJr
Looks like Thea is the way to go with MoI... :-P
I'll give the demo a gander.
-Will
PS - Paq, that Car render (crinkles and all) with the wood attached at the back was hilarious!
Radiance should had understood that
we're all just trying to make his product the best it can be - Michael was very helpful explaining how NURBS exports data, and how it should be properly used by a rendering app.
I hope Radiance takes a deep breath and reconsiders his stance on this - we're here to help him succeed not to stress him out as he seems to feel.
I agree that all other development should be put on hold until this issue is resolved however.
Taking the same model and rendering it in Thea and Octane should be proof enough, all personalities aside...
From: Phil (PHILBO)
I think that these issues will be resolved eventually.
Please have patience and understand that it is on the radar and these example files will be a great help. I cannot confirm any timing with any further work in this area, but it is on the to do list (and it isn't the number 1 priority.)
Please sit tight, and by all means, try every demo of every render engine you can get your hands on. Then purchase the best one for your style and work flow. In the end, I hope that Octane will be every ones choice but understand that it will not be so.
Thanks for your patience and understanding in the issue.
Sincerely:
Phil Beauchamp
From: Michael Gibson
Maybe we can let this thread dwindle down now and get back to MoI discussions?
Otherwise poor Phil is going to be stuck in a loop having to apologize over and over again for something that he doesn't have direct control over.
- Michael
From: Phil (PHILBO)
Yeah...like when can I fork over money for MOI3D Version 2.0!!!!
From: Michael Gibson
Pretty darn soon! :) This pesky documentation...
- Michael
From: vodkamartini
How are those docs going, anyway? Have you begun the latin translations, or are you still working on the iambic pentameter? =)
From: Michael Gibson
I'm afraid I'm still stuck on the Aramaic at the moment... :)
From: falcon76
One times more, Michael, you show us how serious you are.
You have a software almost bug free, but you don't start selling it just because of the documentation. I really admire your way of work. Thanks for that!
From: zierlabs (SHANE)
with so many new vis apps coming out i was about to invest in this even though i don't have a CUDA GPU. looks like i read this in time. Thea i'm testing atm and looks pretty good. i think in time it will become pretty powerfull, but somehow fryrender still feels the most professional renderer out there, with the best quality result, even though it lacks in areas.
hypershot and all the biased stuff out there just seems less and less enticing these days...
hey Michael, with all your spare time how about you make us an unbiased real-time renderer MOI style ;)
From: ycarry
Hi all
Just to say the prob is solved. Radiance say:
<<we found the issue, it was a precision issue in the cuda kernel's normal interpolation/flipping.
fixed in upcoming 2.2.>>
From: ed (EDDYF)
That's good news. Maybe he'll put back the MoI logo on the home page :)
The new videos showing Octane ver 2.2 with dual GTX480 cards is impressive.
Ed
From: OSTexo
Hello,
He is just trying to cover himself now that the issue was cropping up with models generated in other applications. If Radiance is going to indicate true compatibility he needs to remove more logos, not add any at this point.
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