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From: Michael Gibson
10 Aug   [#20] In reply to [#12]
Hi Martin,

re:
> some way of snapping to faces and end points ect and/or a way of being able
> to apply a percentage or exact dimension to the position of the section.

In the updated version at the top of this thread, you can type in a percentage or
press the small "point" button to pick a point as alternate ways to position the
section in addition to the slider.





- Michael

Image Attachments:
MartinSection2.png 


From: Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
10 Aug   [#21]
What is the use of this Point ?


From: Rich (-RB-)
10 Aug   [#22]
YES! You're a beautiful man, Michael Gibson. Hopefully everyone gets an efficiency kick out of this!

I'm yet to give it some decent hard testing on the job but looks great so far I'll keep on it!
From: blowlamp
10 Aug   [#23] In reply to [#21]
Pilou.
Use the point icon to select a snap point from your model. Your section view will then be in perfect alignment with the point selected.

Martin.
From: blowlamp
10 Aug   [#24] In reply to [#20]
Michael.

Thank you for adding my suggestions to the Section tool.
It's a brilliant implementation and you have it working just as I'd hoped. ;-)

Martin.
From: Michael Gibson
10 Aug   [#25] In reply to [#21]
Hi Pilou,

re:
> What is the use of this Point ?

When you push that you can then pick a point on the model and the section cutting plane will pass through that point.

Here is an example using that option to make the plane pass directly through a corner on the model:



- Michael
From: Michael Gibson
10 Aug   [#26] In reply to [#24]
Hi Martin, thank you very much for your feedback! :)

It turned out that I had a good space to include those controls after moving the slider to its own line.

That adds a lot of flexibility being able to use one tool for both visual analysis and also geometry construction.

I'm thinking maybe it could get an icon on the View tab in the side pane, what do you think? CPlane is there and seems related.

- Michael
From: Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
10 Aug   [#27] In reply to [#25]
Thx for the info!
From: blowlamp
10 Aug   [#28] In reply to [#26]
Michael.

Adding an icon to the tool palette would be the cherry on the cake as far as I'm concerned and I can't think of a better place than the one you suggested, so it's a thumbs up from me.

Thank you.
Martin.

EDIT: This tool is also useful for creating new planes. Just create the sections as required under 'Section plane', tick 'Keep geometry', followed by 'Done' and then use the CPlane tool on this geometry. If you now press the 'Undo' button, then your solid comes back, but the CPlane stays in its new position. ;-)
From: Marc (TELLIER)
10 Aug   [#29]
Fantastic tool!

Maybe it could live in the "view" Tab ?

Marc
From: Phiro
10 Aug   [#30]
Hi,

Very impressive function.
I don't know how I will use it and exploit this potential but I will find...

I have questions :

When I select a surface of a solid or joinedSurf and use "Section", MoI respond "Select solids to section". --- > Normal

When I select a curve and use "Section", MoI respond "Select solids to section". --- > Normal

When I select a lonely single surface and use "Section", MoI respond with an error :

TypeError: undefined is not an object (evaluating 'bbox.center.x')
Section.js line 87
MoI avoid the view of the surface (not deleted but not visible since moved or save/reload.

Is it possible that MoI respond with "Select solids to section"

And when I use "Section" on a joined surface, the result could be strange because MoI have problems to know how to cut.
Perhaps could You limit the use of Secition only on solid and deny all other type of objects ?
From: BurrMan
10 Aug   [#31] In reply to [#26]
"""""""""""""""I'm thinking maybe it could get an icon on the View tab in the side pane"""""""""""

Cyrus says "I can dig it!"
From: MO (MO_TE)
10 Aug   [#32]
Thanks for the section command. It is a useful tool indeed. Often, I find myself drawing a straight line in one of the parallel views, then using that line to generate a projected curve on my objects for cutting faces or detailing. This requires some trial and error to get the best result.

I am wondering if it is possible to have the "Section Plane" outlines generate pseudo-projected lines on objects, as these results are much cleaner than standard projected lines. I believe an "outline" mode would be a great fit for this command.

Additionally, if you agree that an "outline" mode would be beneficial, it would be useful to have a way to retain both the object and the section outputs, as they can be used to construct curves for further modeling.
options such as: [None, Keep Section Geometry, Keep All].
From: BurrMan
10 Aug   [#33] In reply to [#26]
Michael,
A small anomaly for you to investigate before you get too deep.

Some of the "inner snaps" are missing on s simple object at first creation


From: Michael Gibson
10 Aug   [#34] In reply to [#32]
Hi MO,

re:
> I am wondering if it is possible to have the "Section Plane" outlines generate pseudo-projected
> lines on objects, as these results are much cleaner than standard projected lines.

Can you please post a file with an example of the desired result?

Thanks, - Michael
From: MO (MO_TE)
11 Aug   [#35] In reply to [#34]
Hi Michael,

Here are two example files. In the first file, you will see a cleaner result obtained by extracting the generated section plane.

I also did another experiment in file #2 where I compared the "Section plane edges extraction," "projecting a straight line," and "intersecting a surface" methods on normal and analytical surfaces. I found that the Curves/Isect command produces the best and cleanest results.
I'm not sure if using analytical surfaces actually makes a difference. In example 1, the curves generated from analytical surfaces have fewer points, but in example 2, the opposite is true.

Attachments:
outlineExample-1.3dm
outlineExample-2.3dm


From: Marc (TELLIER)
11 Aug   [#36]
The dimension tab could also be a good spot for this command.

Marc
From: 777RAVEN777
11 Aug   [#37]
Wow - seriously useful command!

Up till now I've been making copies of solids & slicing them up in different ways to get an idea of what's going on - this has made things way easier.

It's sometimetimes a little glitchy depending on complexity/number of solids, but that might just be my processor, and it gets there in the end ;)

Kudos to whoever came up with this!
From: blowlamp
12 Aug   [#38] In reply to [#37]
777RAVEN777

"Kudos to whoever came up with this!"

Rich asked and Michael delivered. ;-)
From: Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
13 Aug   [#39]
Seems we can't give a color to the section(s) surface(s) during the process!

(or before in giving different colors to the surfaces' volumes like X= Red, Y = Green, Z = Blue)


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