It is a sloppy result though. Thats one of me beefs with autodesys/viacad types.. they are so attractive with alot of powerful tools, but many of the functions will produce output thats no good for anything but it.... the main thing is the mixing of the 2 entity types that really just dont go together... my preference is to just keep them seperate... just to add, i own viacad pro 9 and have almost bought the autodesys stuff several times... they are very powerful packages!