Hi Marv,

> After I join and save, the file does not open joined. I then have to join again before I LOFT. Is that normal or am I missing another "Done"

No, that's not normal, can you please post the 3DM model file so I can take a look at what you've got?

Maybe you've got some duplicate curves stacked up on the same spot, some unjoined and some joined...

The Join command finishes immediately so it doesn't have a last "Done" step.

- Michael