Thanks for your suggestions.. I'll give them a try shortly..( heading out now to pick up some wood ). I'm sure somewhere there's a "metal" forming tool. Being able to deform a surface with the approach of another strikes me as handy but I'm off to the left usually. But this one has been driving me a little nuts. If I didn't have a few hundred cycles to consider, I'd just draw it.. But getting it to look good too in repetition has been challenging..