hi frency,

yes easygif is the site i have been using. if you render at 25fps that match the delay time of 4 on their site. keyshot seems to add one extra frame at the end. so either don't upload it or skip it on their site. to speed and slow the rotation you can extend the rendering time. this takes a lot longer to do though. the site lets you speed up and slow down the gif but i'm not sure how they go about that. i imagine it changes the fps. so i re-made all the gifs on my site to try and assure 25fps.

hi pafurijaz,

yes blender is no doubt powerful. i need something simple and easy to use though. i'm retired and have no interest in devoting the time to learn blender. any program with an interface i don't like, i immediately discount. it's not a blender specific thing. that's why i like moi so much. keyshot 6.3 still seems the best for me. i have had all kinds of gui problems with keyshot since then. the first time i tried to render to gif it crashed the program. i ran into other errors pop up too. so very disappointing. i didn't really even get to test the render to gif. but it helped me find some things to make them better anyways. so not a total waste. nice job on the prop animation.

i appreciate all the recommendations and time spent trying to help me out. i have done my own searches as well.

anthony