Hi Michael,

Well it was just to create some SF panels here and there on the space ship.
I do like the one click solution from the groove 0 option, but I also prefer to have a little ofset of the panel to have better details in the shadows/gi.
Wihtout saying it much more easy to manage surfaces on separated object (solids).

> One thing I was figuring was that with grooved above zero you've got all the pieces created so you can select them and use Edit > Separate to break the inset part out as a separate object if you want.

I'll try to figure out that, but I'm not sure if it's so easy, especially when the inset is done on curved surfaces, as you have to rebuild the missing surface under the pieces. (I prefer to keep everyting 'solids' to avoid double faces surfaces at render time)