Thanks Michael for all of the help.

Attached is version 11 of the ionic volute.
See Group07,
It has two sub-items,
a. Outer spiral with a blank box. (This can be deleted with delete key, or screen delete, as you stated.) (I had been trying to right click and delete, no good)
b. Unnamed
(so only one is unnamed.)

Details show either 2 groups for these, or 3 objects. I think that there is only one object.

- Brian

MoI has great commands for drawing this example. Some stages are similar, as reduced scale. Orient can help create the two sub-stages.
Having Groups is a very useful addition to V5b. Before I was using color styles to "group" objects.

I'll study your answers more...